HBO MAX Hard Knocks: Training Camp with the Buffalo Bills Episode 5

Jackie and Diana, along with guest Jason Godbey, delve into the final episode of Hard Knocks featuring the Buffalo Bills. They discuss the emotional moments surrounding player cuts, highlight personal stories of players, and explore the dynamics within the team. The conversation also touches on coaching styles, fan engagement, and the unique culture of the Bills. Filmmaking techniques used in the series are analyzed, and the hosts reflect on the future of the team and the impact of the show on viewers.

Chapters

00:00 Intro

02:06 Dinner Before the Cuts: Emotional Moments

04:06 Player Cuts and Heartfelt Goodbyes

06:07 Buffalo's Unique Culture and Team Dynamics

11:54 Injuries and Team Changes

14:01 The Impact of Personal Stories in Hard Knocks

17:59 Reflections on Past Super Bowl Experiences

23:26 Football Rivalries and Personalities

26:03 Team Culture and Family Dynamics

29:45 Documentary Filmmaking in Sports

33:36 The Art of Storytelling in Sports Documentaries

36:06 Coaching Styles and Team Dynamics

39:26 Behind the Scenes of NFL Content Creation

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Transcript

Jacqueline Hanzl (00:08)
Hi, this is Jackie.

Diana (00:09)
Hi, this is Diana.

Jacqueline Hanzl (00:11)
And this is HomeBodiesOnly, where we welcome all bodies to join us as we break down and dissect HBO MAX series. And this episode, we are talking about Hard Knocks training camp with the Buffalo Bills, episode five, the last episode. We also have a special guest, tri-host co-host, tri-host. He is not unfamiliar to HomeBodiesOnly at all.

Diana (00:32)
Hahaha

Jacqueline Hanzl (00:38)
and he co-hosted with me when we talked about the White Lotus. Also, you can talk about yourself, Jason, about the BTRP Media Network. And this is Jason Godbey Thank you for joining us. ⁓

Jason Godbey (00:49)
Thank you guys so much for

having me. I've been wanting to do an episode of HomeBodies and ⁓ with both of you guys, because we haven't done that yet. And this one is special because it's football. And obviously, I'm here to mansplain the game to you ⁓ because I watch so much football. ⁓

Jacqueline Hanzl (00:57)
Yes. No.

Diana (01:00)
and it took the Bills to bring us together.

Jacqueline Hanzl (01:02)
They're dead. ⁓

Not to Diana.

Diana (01:11)
Mm-mm,

not necessary.

Jacqueline Hanzl (01:13)
Ha

Jason Godbey (01:15)
No, I haven't watched the football game in its entirety in about 20 years. Like I, you know, but I never miss an episode of Hard Knocks So yeah, so I haven't, ⁓ and I've seen all of these episodes of, we're, we're, this is the end of the series, right? This is where we're capped out now. Yeah.

Diana (01:20)
Mmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (01:20)
so there you go.

Yes, you've seen them all.

Yeah.

Diana (01:33)
Yes. Yep.

Jacqueline Hanzl (01:35)
Why don't you talk about BTRP Media Network briefly, if you'd like.

Jason Godbey (01:39)
Sure. Well, ⁓ I didn't, I didn't,

⁓ I didn't write down my spiel, but, ⁓ home bodies only, ⁓ along with my show, No Rest for the Weekend and various other YouTube channels, blogs and so forth are part of the BTRP media network, which is found at btrpmedia.com. That is also our Patreon page where you can follow us there for free and see all of our different shows. All the videos are there.

Jacqueline Hanzl (01:44)
That's okay.

Jason Godbey (02:06)
And ⁓ if you want to be an extra special follower, you can do a paid membership where you will get bonus episodes and videos and things like that.

Jacqueline Hanzl (02:16)
Awesome. let's get into it. All right. The first thing of course was the dinner that a bunch of them had the day before the cuts. And we already knew because of obviously it was in real time, but we already knew the cuts beforehand. Actually, I don't know. You might've said Casey Rogers was cut, Diana, but I think when I was watching, didn't remember. And I was like, no, with the rescue dogs?

Diana (02:41)
Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (02:43)
How could you do that? And the fact he had that football and ⁓ just so, just so sweet. ⁓

Diana (02:51)
And I don't think

he didn't, yeah, he didn't get signed to the practice squad. So I'm not sure where he landed actually. I didn't follow up on that to see where, cause Casey is from originally. I he went to high school and well, I think he went to high school on Syracuse. So still, you know, enough of like, you know.

Jacqueline Hanzl (02:54)
No, no we did not.

From Buffalo, right?

Okay.

Because he was

acting like, he said like, I didn't, it's like coming home, but I mean, I mean, obviously, because it's, I guess, nearby, Yeah.

Diana (03:12)
It's like coming home. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I think he went to high school

in Syracuse, but I have no idea if somebody picked him up yet and signed him. Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (03:19)
Mm-hmm.

Jason Godbey (03:20)
I

Jacqueline Hanzl (03:20)
I was like...

Jason Godbey (03:21)
referred to that dinner as the last supper. ⁓

Jacqueline Hanzl (03:23)
It is, it's the last supper. Totally. For some of them.

Diana (03:24)
Yeah. And I couldn't figure out

where they were. I tried to like look for clues of like what restaurant or if they were like in, I could not figure out where they were.

Jacqueline Hanzl (03:29)
you did?

Jason Godbey (03:36)
It looked like they were in like a wine cellar or something That looked like like the basement of a maybe it was like in the basement or like a chef's table situation at a restaurant Where they were like because it looked like they were where all the wine and everything. It didn't look like a real restaurant

Jacqueline Hanzl (03:38)
That was such a weird area where they sat. Yeah.

Diana (03:38)
Yeah. Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (03:52)
They did.

Diana (03:53)
Mm-hmm. Even like when they

Jacqueline Hanzl (03:54)
No, it was us.

Diana (03:55)
showed the guy prepping the food, I was looking at the cutting board because it said something about, yeah, and I could not figure out where they were in Buffalo or beyond. So I'm going to find out, though. I tried. It kept saying like they were like I kept getting these like things like in Highmark and I was like, what? some like Highmark, I'm like, I don't know about that.

Jacqueline Hanzl (03:57)
Hmm. Yeah. It had a name on it. Yep. Yeah.

Did you, I should have Googled it. Sometimes when you Google, and it wouldn't say.

Diana (04:20)
I should have fact-checked with super fan Doris, but she'll be able to tell me where that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll check with Doris on that. Yeah, stay tuned for a follow-up.

Jacqueline Hanzl (04:24)
⁓ Okay. Stay tuned. We'll do a little ⁓ bonus clip.

The restaurant. Yeah. I mean, Jimmy Ciarlo we knew it was happening. That was heartbreaking, but super psyched about Practice Squad. ⁓ Just surprising Ja' Marcus Ingram with the painting. I was just, it's adorable with the ⁓ rainbow, with the waterfall.

Diana (04:39)
Yes.

⁓ the rainbow, like

Jacqueline Hanzl (04:51)
Yeah. And how he said he's trying to use his right

Diana (04:51)
Niagara Falls almost. Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (04:53)
brain. It's just, I hate to say, you don't think of them doing that. know, they're football players. But so I just, love that. mean, Josh Allen, just stop it. Every time I say his name, I'm going to say stop it after, because when he's praising his wife acting and how he got teary eyed, like that the movie premiere, I didn't get to watch it. No, I didn't get to watch it.

Diana (05:00)
Mm-hmm.

You

I sent you, did you watch that full interview with, okay,

because I did that one that they showed with, it's Kyle Brandt, right, from Angry Runs. He's like a mega fan of the Bills and Josh Allen.

Jacqueline Hanzl (05:21)
I gotta watch it. She sent me an interview.

with those two guys.

because I was like thinking us two might do a better job, but I'll get into that later.

Diana (05:35)
⁓

he's great though. He's like Bills by a billion. I love him.

Jacqueline Hanzl (05:39)
No, no, they were good. They were good.

Josh Allen picturing the Super Bowl and just, yeah, he's manifesting. That's what he's doing. He's picturing the feeling. Jason's just laughing at us.

Diana (05:49)
I was getting chills, you know I was. The salt, like when he was like describing, like that is

Buffalo. Like there's no doubt it would be like a blizzard in downtown when this would happen and it would, the salt would be crunching. They would be, I was like visualizing it with him. We all are.

Jacqueline Hanzl (05:58)
Yes.

Smelling the air of the snow and yes,

okay. I loved the shots of the actual buffalo and I did just post the story, my dog noticing them and was like, and I couldn't even get, cause she started to do that and I was like, my God. So of course I whip out my phone to film it and she wasn't really doing it, but then she started to, it was so funny, but I loved them.

Diana (06:20)
Hahaha.

Jacqueline Hanzl (06:32)
They looked so beautiful. I don't think I've really ever looked at Buffalo. And then the one was just like staring at the camera. I'm like, well, I'm going to name him Herb. Sorry. That's his name. I don't know. Okay. Not another fight. There was another fight. Of course we don't know. Was it Jordan Phillips?

Diana (06:35)
Mmm.

So that was actually Jordan Phillips with Ray Davis, of all people. Yes. Yes. I was a little like, ⁓ OK. But I mean, it happens. I know. I know.

Jacqueline Hanzl (06:53)
It was Ray Davis.

But I was confused exactly who, I just don't like that. I don't like you. No,

I don't like that with your own team. No, it sounded like it was gonna be.

Jason Godbey (07:04)
It wasn't much of a fight though. Like he Just Like That. little guy just

ran into the big guy. Like he was a wall and like fell down. It wasn't even like, it wasn't even like, yes, they were, they were getting into it, but it was like, dude, you just ran into me and that guy's not going anywhere. He's the size of a city.

Diana (07:13)
Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (07:15)
But something must have been said, obviously. We couldn't see it.

Diana (07:21)
Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (07:22)
Right. Yeah. That's why he was

like, you're serious?

Diana (07:24)
He's a big dude.

Jacqueline Hanzl (07:25)
You're serious? Yeah. Then Jimmy Ciarlo FaceTiming. It's da- I mean, I can't. So cute. So cute. ⁓ You have to tell us about line dancing in Buffalo now. Have you ever-

Diana (07:31)
Mmm. Love him.

yeah, yeah, I couldn't remember the, I know they were at the place called The Stage, which is a, it is a country music. It's huge. It's a venue. ⁓ It's right in Buffalo, like on Main Street or something. can't remember, there was this place for my bachelorette party in Buffalo, of course. ⁓ We went downtown and they took me to this, it wasn't that place though. It wasn't, I cannot remember.

Jacqueline Hanzl (07:49)
Is it huge? It looks huge. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

You

Diana (08:10)
It looks like it could have been that, but there was like a bull that you could ride and like there was a live band and like, yeah, like, you know, the mechanical bull thing or something. And, ⁓ yeah, I did it. Yeah. Yeah. It was like me. yeah. All the things yet. and Kate, my, my sister-in-law is on there with me. had no business doing that. ⁓ They're, they're available. ⁓

Jacqueline Hanzl (08:12)
You

⁓ nice. I've done that before. Yeah. Have you ever done that? Did you do it? good. Did you have like a veil on and your sash or what? What were you wearing?

to see these pictures because I can't even, I cannot picture this to be

honest.

Diana (08:39)
But yeah,

that's a real place and it's definitely a place where they do like the one, like watching him do that though, was like, my God, like how could, come on. It was Ty Johnson, right?

Jacqueline Hanzl (08:48)
line dancing. know. Ty

Doe, the one with the horse, right? Isn't he the one with the horses?

Diana (08:52)
Yes, where he was riding the horse.

Yes, as a guest.

Jacqueline Hanzl (08:55)
Jason that, he was the guest. He was the guest. Who was the one who had the horses? Sorry. He was right. Okay. Well, I don't know about.

Diana (08:58)
Yes.

I forgot. It was

it was somebody on like the O line or the defensive tackle or something. my gosh. Who was it? Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (09:08)
All right. I could go back in my notes and look, but

Jason Godbey (09:11)
He was a man really too big to be on a horse.

Jacqueline Hanzl (09:11)
Jason, it looked so fun. So I said he looked so funny writing it. Like he looked like he wasn't writing it. ⁓

Diana (09:14)
You

Jason Godbey (09:17)
He was the size of the horse. Like,

it's...

Diana (09:21)
but somehow made

it graceful.

Jacqueline Hanzl (09:23)
No, he was so graceful.

Like that's why it was so funny. Cause he, yeah. I wish they cut to that again. Cause I would have enjoyed.

Diana (09:32)
Yeah.

Jason Godbey (09:32)
Wait,

so I have questions. Can I interrupt with questions? ⁓ so, cause I'm there, I've, think I'm, I have been to, you know, far upstate New York. I've been through like Syracuse and Utica all over Canada. I've never been to Buffalo, been in Niagara falls, but like, are there Buffalo in Buffalo? Is that a thing? Like, where did they go to get those Buffalo? was like, it wasn't like they were walking down main street. I'm just like,

Jacqueline Hanzl (09:35)
Okay. Of course.

Diana (09:35)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (09:55)
I know, I was wondering that too. I was wondering that.

Diana (10:00)
You

Jason Godbey (10:01)
What poor schmuck on the camera crew got like, hey, second unit, guess what? We got to find some buffalo up here. They send some guy out with a camera.

Diana (10:03)
I

Yeah, I

mean you could wander around and see like the buffalo statues. They're very famous and people have them like on their lawns even. They've been at auctions like they do. You know how like Sargadies has like the boats or like the cat or whatever They've done that with buffaloes all around and stuff like that too. Like the standing buffalo is like a thing. But no like we don't have like I don't know I mean I didn't.

Jacqueline Hanzl (10:26)
that's, what is it?

Jason Godbey (10:30)
But I didn't

Jacqueline Hanzl (10:30)
But there's actually no

buffalo living in the buffalo. Isn't that funny?

Diana (10:36)
It's not something we're like, we're going to go to the buffalo farm or something like.

Jacqueline Hanzl (10:39)
And

they showed the Buffalo like twice in this episode. Not just once, they were, it was twice. I think it was twice.

Diana (10:43)
imagine there's ⁓ a bison place to go or something, but it's not like they're

just like, you know, down on Hurtle Ave or something. ⁓

Jacqueline Hanzl (10:52)
We

had the farm here with the buffalo.

Diana (10:54)
Totally right down old Kings Highway yeah? Yeah I don't yeah they also had like a like a barn of horror there or something at some point right? Yeah yeah yeah yeah whatever this is what happens when we talk.

Jacqueline Hanzl (10:56)
I think that, I actually think that is no longer, but just like just recently.

that's where they do the barn of terror. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, Jason. We're going. Yeah.

Jason Godbey (11:11)
There's a, ⁓ there's a thing in filmmaking that came from Westerns and it's called cut to the horse. ⁓ so like if you ha if you're having a conversation and the, you know, your edit doesn't match or you need to fill in something, they'll cut, they just cut to like a horse reaction shot. And for this, seemed like cut to the Buffalo. Like we don't have a scene here. I just, just cut back to the Buffalo. People love it.

Jacqueline Hanzl (11:16)
Yeah. you told me this. Yeah.

Just, fuck, go to the buffalo. Yeah.

Diana (11:33)
I could see that.

Jacqueline Hanzl (11:38)
Yeah, yeah. Jordan Poyer, who you talked about in our last episode. Yeah, he's yummy. ⁓ He's very good looking. And ⁓ I liked he was walking. He does. And he was walking barefoot on the field, is, I know you said, I mean, it could be a thing, but that's such a yoga. Like you said, he was into yoga, right?

Diana (11:44)
who I'm.

so excited that he's back.

He is. He's got the sparkly eyes. I know you love that. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, he does like a lot of like, he does like, yeah, like spiritual stuff. he does, you know, it's funny when we had last year, we signed Mack Collins ⁓ as a, he's a wide receiver, excuse me. And he was known for being bare, like he would not wear shoes. He found, what did he say? like, shoes are like, he had like some way to describe it. So he would be barefoot unless he had to put his cleats on, right?

Jacqueline Hanzl (12:08)
and stuff, just to touch the ground with your bare feet and grounding and all that.

really? Yeah.

Mm.

Diana (12:38)
⁓

He doesn't eat with utensils. He eats with his bare hands. He's very unique. I know he's very, doesn't believe in like, but like I started following him on Instagram because he does these like, ⁓ he calls them like Mack's like it's almost like, like life Hacks, like Hacks, Mack's Hacks or something. I mean, I just got sucked right in.

Jacqueline Hanzl (12:43)
Okay, I don't know about that one. ⁓ That's a little, he got a little minus there. Sorry.

Okay, Mack's Hacks

Yeah.

Diana (13:06)
And

I, and he would show up, he would be the guy, remember I told, like he would come to the stadium every week and show up dressed up in some elaborate costume. He was the one that was Fred Flintstone towards the end of the season. Yeah. So it might ring a bell because I've talked about him and we, whatever. Anyway, yeah. my God. I do miss him because of that. Like he had such like a fun, like flirty personality and the fans loved him, but he's gone. And I think he misses Buffalo. There's no doubt.

Jacqueline Hanzl (13:17)
⁓ okay.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Aww.

Aww. Well, I'm glad Poyer's back. I just said prac- Sorry.

Jason Godbey (13:42)
Is there

a, I have, have another question. ⁓ cause I don't watch football, but like, were a few guys who just didn't seem to have to show up to camp. Was it because they got picked up from another team late or was it because they were returning veterans and they didn't get asked back? Like, I don't like.

Jacqueline Hanzl (13:52)
or do we not just see them?

Diana (14:01)
Now everybody

was at camp at St. John Fisher.

Jacqueline Hanzl (14:03)
where we just didn't

see them.

Jason Godbey (14:05)
Well, but we didn't see him until like the last episode. Yeah.

Diana (14:08)
Poyer? Poyer got

signed right after the, yeah, so when 53-man roster deadline came, he got signed after that to the practice squad because I think he got released from the Dolphins and so he was technically like a free agent and he's always talked about, his wife especially, I think I talked about this on the last episode, his wife especially was a huge fan of Buffalo. I mean, we drafted him and he was here, I think.

Jacqueline Hanzl (14:09)
because luckily.

Jason Godbey (14:13)
Okay.

Diana (14:37)
for a long period of time. And so when he left, his wife had made some comments about like the culture of the Bills family and the players and the coach and like there's the vibe of like the Bills mafia and all of that versus down in Miami. It's like they're not doing anything right down here versus up there. They do it right. I miss it. Like she was very vocal about it, but yeah, he wasn't there because he got signed late.

⁓ after that deadline, like August something, it was like the end of August, right, Jackie, I think? Because we were still in the middle of, yeah. Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (15:11)
Yeah, because they, well, they were talking about that they said the date on there was August 27th,

that they were, at least it was around there because that's when they signed the practice. ⁓ I think that's when they were signing the contract. I realized I went a little out of order. ⁓ I love the practice squad thing. ⁓ I love that they were talking to, I forgot what his name was, the player who's from England. And he's like, you ever, they're like, you ever been to London? And he was like, what's

Diana (15:24)
Mm-hmm. That's okay.

I forget his name, yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (15:39)
The other one's like, what's the food like? And then they're talking about, then the other two are like, well, there's a McDonald's there. you know, very concerned scenes. mean, they weren't showing a lot of emotion, but they were just like, they, have the same menu.

Diana (15:45)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, just doing their stretches, you know.

Jacqueline Hanzl (15:55)
But I liked that they were very concerned about the food,

which I get, but then...

Jason Godbey (16:00)
Sometimes

I forget how young these guys are. Like they're practically children. Like some of these guys right out of college, they're so young, you know, like they, mean, yeah, I mean, like, I mean, some of them are huge. mean, the, one of the guys who came back, his arms were the size of my thighs. It was just like, just ridiculous mountain of a man, but like, yeah, they're kids.

Diana (16:04)
Hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (16:04)
yeah, some- yeah.

Cause... Yeah. Yeah.

Diana (16:09)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (16:11)
And they don't look at, some of them do, but like a lot of them don't, because they're so big.

Diana (16:14)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (16:25)
Yeah.

Jason Godbey (16:30)
they're they're kids and they you know it's like they've never been out of the country some of them have never you know been you know anywhere that's not on the football circuit probably and you know the but yeah it was it's just like and they have that glow like that young like there's like rays of light coming off of them they're so young and energetic you know it's ⁓ it's it's really refreshing like it's it's kind of like yeah that's what youth was like that's

Jacqueline Hanzl (16:40)
Probably, yeah.

You

Yep. Yeah.

Jason Godbey (16:59)
That's what it was like to have hope and ambition.

Diana (17:02)
You know, it's

speaking of not young. so our kicker Jackie, can you name him? Do you remember his name? Tyler Bass, right? So you, yeah. So he has like a groin or hip pull injury or something. So we actually signed, um, Matt Prater, if I'm saying his name right. And I think he's 41 years old. Yeah. Kicker apparently he's phenomenal. I asked Matt about him. I was like, I don't know my husband, Matt.

Jacqueline Hanzl (17:12)
Bass? No, the one who just got injured.

Whoa. Wow. And that's old,

that's like quote, old for a kicker. mean, no, I know, but that is considered old. It's not like, that's like not, yeah. So that's not, yeah. I mean, that's old for any sport, basically.

Diana (17:35)
He's the kicker.

Yeah, that's old for an NFL player. I mean, look at what's his name? What the heck is, why

am I forgetting the guy that I can't stand? Who's the old quarterback that is washed up and he played for the Jets last year? Oh my God, yes. He's like 41, 42. I don't know.

Jason Godbey (17:49)
Do it.

Jacqueline Hanzl (17:52)
Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers. Did you really forget his name or just not want to say it?

Jason Godbey (17:59)
That was one of the best, like ⁓ that season of Hard Knocks was, I didn't, I remember watching that and thinking like it seemed like the Aaron Rodgers show. Like it was all about Aaron Rodgers and you know, at some point like Liev Schreiber, who never appears on camera, came out just to meet Aaron Rodgers, cause I guess he's a big Jets fan, cause he's a New Yorker like me.

Jacqueline Hanzl (18:06)
Oh, I didn't see.

Diana (18:12)
god.

Jacqueline Hanzl (18:12)
⁓

wow.

Jason Godbey (18:27)
And, was just like, my God, you expect like some white light to follow this guy around. And if water appeared, you could just walk right over it, you know? And then like, what was it like one game? He got hurt.

Diana (18:32)
He

Jacqueline Hanzl (18:33)
You

Diana (18:42)
the against

the Bills, the first play.

Jason Godbey (18:44)
I was Just Like That

Jacqueline Hanzl (18:45)
yeah.

Jason Godbey (18:47)
you could not have written a better script. mean, honestly, for all the things to happen, it was just, ⁓ and you know, cause I, I I'm in the entertainment world too. So to me he's Olivia Munn's ex boyfriend instead of, know, that's how I think of them. But, ⁓ yeah, it was, ⁓ it was, and he's, he, I don't know. He seems like such an asshole. ⁓

Jacqueline Hanzl (19:00)
⁓ I didn't realize that.

Diana (19:09)
He really does, sorry. Like

Jacqueline Hanzl (19:09)
Yeah. Yeah. ⁓

Jason Godbey (19:11)
Like he just,

Diana (19:11)
just...

Jason Godbey (19:12)
he feels like, you know, just like he believes his own press man. ⁓ and that was, that was just like, like, and of course it's the jets, you know, of course, of all the teams for this to happen to it's the jets. ⁓ but it's, it's interesting seeing the different dynamics of different teams and stuff. And Buffalo, think is kind of a, a special thing. Like it doesn't like the way the team does, like they did that big fan event and everything that.

Diana (19:20)
Hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (19:23)
You

Diana (19:32)
Mm-hmm.

Jason Godbey (19:39)
You didn't see that a lot of these other shows or they they do all these outreach things a lot of the team, but it just kind of seems, I don't know, different or something. It's.

Jacqueline Hanzl (19:48)
They're a huge

part of the city, right? The culture, they are super tight. Like definitely, that's what I was gonna ask Jason watching the other Hard Knocks. is this team, you know, to me it seems very special, but it's the first Hard Knocks I've ever seen and everything. And obviously I know they probably on the other ones, I would assume they show you the personal stories. So you get kind of sucked into them, but the way they are.

Diana (19:51)
culture, the city, yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (20:16)
with each other, I was curious, and also obviously with their fans.

Jason Godbey (20:22)
Yeah. I, you know, I've seen quite a few series of Hard Knocks and it is what's unique about, well, first of all, Hard Knocks comes from NFL Films and NFL Films has been around since like the seventies. Like they've been doing this. They invented the slow motion spiral pass going through the air. Like that was like, that's kind of like their thing. And, they're there from a filmmaking standpoint as someone who's like made documentaries and stuff. These guys are the gold standard.

Diana (20:32)
Mm-hmm.

Jason Godbey (20:52)
of like filmmaking. ⁓ and they do, they do unique things every season to kind of change it up. So just when you think, it's getting a little formulaic. Like last year they covered an entire division. They did an in season thing with a, a team that was getting close. That was kind of covering from behind. And it really does have this like, Hey, we know we're doing the same thing.

Diana (21:08)
Mm-hmm.

Jason Godbey (21:19)
You know, we're doing training camp, but we're going to try and change it up and make it a little bit different and make it unique every time. each series, even though, even if it's a training camp series, they're still different than different enough from like, this is a very different season than the Jets season. ⁓ even though they both have star quarterbacks and they're both in New York, but like the, the Josh Kelly vibe, very different than the Aaron Rogers vibe.

Jacqueline Hanzl (21:49)
You

mean Josh Allen? ⁓

Jason Godbey (21:50)
Josh Allen.

am I thinking of? Jim Kelly. That's what I'm thinking of. he, Jim Kelly was also a quarterback, right? Okay. That's how that's how, that's how fricking old I am. ⁓ by the way, Diana, I wanted to ask you, so you, you're a psychologist, right? I'm wondering if you can help me with some childhood trauma because I want to, I just, just a quick aside. I want to take you back to 1991.

Diana (21:51)
He's like, Jim Kelly, Josh Allen.

Jacqueline Hanzl (21:52)
I don't know. Jim Kelly. There you go.

Diana (21:58)
Yeah,

Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (22:11)
Right now.

⁓ boy.

Diana (22:20)
⁓ shoot.

Jason Godbey (22:21)
when a young me bet my big brother that the Buffalo Bills were gonna beat the Giants in the Super Bowl and tragedy struck, have never bet on a sport since then. I was a one and done, you know? And that was what, 30 something, 35 years ago, something like that, 34 years ago? But yeah, that is my.

Diana (22:27)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (22:28)
no.

Diana (22:33)
Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (22:37)
Since then.

Diana (22:37)
I... Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (22:39)
That is.

34.

Jason Godbey (22:48)
That is my greatest Buffalo Bills memory and I'm glad that we have the show so that can erase that. ⁓ But yeah, have the Bills ever won a Super Bowl?

Diana (22:53)
Yeah, I know.

Jacqueline Hanzl (22:54)
There you go.

It was traumatic.

But they've they played in four, right? That's why that's why this they're they featured the Bills, I think, because they've been really right, like, it's been building up and

Diana (23:02)
four times in a row, we went four times in a row in law. So it's like.

Jason Godbey (23:10)
Wow.

Always a bridesmaid. Well, that that is

Diana (23:15)
Yeah.

Jason Godbey (23:16)
that is like you guys are like the New York Mets or, know, that's but, I guess is it always the Chiefs Is it always has it been the Chiefs every time?

Diana (23:26)
God no, they

finally got knocked out Thank God and I I'm sorry, but like of course we watched the game last night. It was in Brazil It was the yeah, that's in the Chiefs lost and I couldn't I couldn't go to bed until I knew that they lost the game I so pumped. I just love watching them lose. I can't stand Patrick Mahomes. I'm sorry I like all like I love Travis Kelce and I've told you you know in the whole like

Jacqueline Hanzl (23:29)
They lost last year. Yeah.

yeah.

Diana (23:55)
Taylor Swift. love that and all the things and I but I there's something about him where he's just like, God, I don't know. It just you know, I don't even think it's a jealousy thing that they've like, it's just like, all right, you're done. Like, go on now. Bye. Bye. Go away.

Jacqueline Hanzl (24:04)
Little big headed.

Jason Godbey (24:06)
Josh Allen seems like... ⁓

Jacqueline Hanzl (24:13)
Yeah. Yeah.

Jason Godbey (24:16)
The,

the bill's thing with, with Josh Allen, it, ⁓ it, it, it makes me laugh because it looks like somebody genetically engineered a quarterback. Like it's like somebody called, they said, you know what, we need an all American quarterback type from central casting. No, and yeah, and he's going to marry a movie star and yeah, it'll, you know, like it's just like.

Jacqueline Hanzl (24:26)
Yes, yes.

Diana (24:31)
You

Jacqueline Hanzl (24:37)
Yep. And he's just going to always

say the right things.

Jason Godbey (24:41)
And just

like this sort of lovable smile and you're just like, where did they find this guy? Where do these people exist? You couldn't find an actor better suited to the role kind of thing.

Jacqueline Hanzl (24:44)
Yup.

Diana (24:44)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (24:47)
I know, would say that too. He's like perfect.

Yeah, because it's not like

he's this, he's not obviously ugly at all, but he's not like a supermodel. He's not like chiseled this, that, but he's just adorable. He's just like you forget he's that big because he's just so cute. ⁓

Diana (25:04)
There's.

Jason Godbey (25:09)
But he's isn't he literally

Diana (25:09)
I mean, what can you say

Jason Godbey (25:10)
like a Midwestern? Yeah.

Diana (25:10)
negative about him? like his whole personality in general too. He such like, I think that's kind of, and I think they touched upon this too with like the, you know, the business side, like they look for specific people to bring to Buffalo. There's no doubt. I mean, you have to have the talent obviously, but you also have to be a good human being in many ways, like, and you have to fit in with the culture because they have something very.

Jacqueline Hanzl (25:15)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Diana (25:37)
unique and special in that locker room. There's no doubt about it. And such respect for Sean McDermott and, and, and Bean and everybody up there in the offices. I mean, yes, it's a business and there's stuff to that. That really is, is tricky, but at the end of the day, I mean, there's there, I don't think there is any football team that has a family. they like that family, like that really close. Who said it? ⁓ was it

Jacqueline Hanzl (25:38)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah.

Diana (26:03)
⁓ god, who was saying something about like, I've been on other teams or he was talking about like...

Jacqueline Hanzl (26:09)
Casey Rogers, when he talked about the camp, when he said this is the first time he was excited about doing camp. Yes. Yes. Yes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And that, yeah.

Diana (26:12)
Was it him? Yeah, coming. Like I usually dread this and like I don't want to go and I'm excited. Like that right there tells you something too. ⁓ So anyway.

Jason Godbey (26:23)
Aaron Rodgers would Aaron Rodgers

would not work on this team. You could not have. Well, like that type of

Diana (26:27)
He didn't even go to his training camp. He's like, he's just too good for anybody. But why are you like, why are what do

you have to prove? Like you've won a Lombardi or two or whatever. Why are you, what are you trying to do? Like dude, you're like, why are you still playing football? What is the point?

Jason Godbey (26:42)
But like that, that kind

of attitude, it's like, Jackie's a Yankees fan. So you can probably relate to this. there are great ballplayers out there, but not all of them can play in the Bronx. and I've seen people who were like terrible as Yankees and they go to someplace like Chicago or, know, they go to Kansas city or something and they're great.

You know, ⁓ you know, especially like pitchers and people like that, but it's like, need to have, it's a thing. There's like a New York thing that if you don't have it, you can't play here. I think a lot of it has to do with the fans. Like New Yorkers are the only fans who boo their own team. you know, I try to give them encouragement. Everybody's booing, but you know,

Diana (27:04)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (27:05)
Mm-hmm.

Diana (27:08)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (27:18)
Well, yeah. I know.

Ha ha!

Jason Godbey (27:28)
But yeah, it's, it's every everything's got, it's a culture thing. And that's, that was one of the things about this season. thought it was a little bit more unique is kind of how much they spent at home with the players and the different vibe. okay, this is like documentary reality television. So it's not really real. once you bring a camera into a situation, you have changed that situation.

Diana (27:42)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (27:43)
Mm-hmm.

Diana (27:54)
Mm-hmm.

Jason Godbey (27:55)
there's a whole thing called the observer effect. And when you make documentaries, you have to be very well aware that you being in the pool changes the water kind of thing. So I don't know, like the dinners, the pizza dinners and stuff like that. Is that for real or is that something they did for the show to give it this kind of atmosphere? ⁓ because you know, there's reality and then there's good television and you know,

Diana (28:21)
Yeah.

Jason Godbey (28:23)
And television, ⁓ like, these guys know what they're doing. mean, there's something in documentaries. It's sort of, I won't say it's a bad word, but it's called faux verite, which, know, you're like, well, okay. So yeah, it it's it's, but it's like, okay, so we need the guy to call his dad on the phone or we need the dad to call the guy and get that scene.

Jacqueline Hanzl (28:38)
Fake truth. I mean, that's what that translates to.

Mm-hmm.

Jason Godbey (28:49)
Well,

the camera guy is not hanging out with them all day to make sure to. some, but some producer is somewhere saying, Hey, we need a scene with you and your dad telling, you know, can you, we want to be there when you call your father and you tell them that you made the practice squad or, know, so you call when you call your wife and tell you got cut or whatever it is, you know, they're following those people. And there is a, an agreement between subject

Jacqueline Hanzl (28:53)
Right, that's true. Yeah. Call your dad now. That's true.

Diana (28:53)
Right.

Hmm

Jacqueline Hanzl (29:01)
Yeah.

Right, right.

Right.

Jason Godbey (29:18)
And filmmaker that says I'm gonna share this moment of my life with you It was interesting because a lot of times in other seasons, you see guys get, go to the office and you see the meeting. Like you see guys get cut and they didn't do that this time around. like, yeah. So, you know, you, sometimes you'll see the, assistant coach or whatever on the phone, go bring your iPad and your blah blah

Diana (29:30)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (29:31)
Hmm. Okay.

No, they didn't. saw them like walk in and yeah, come out.

Jason Godbey (29:45)
And, know, nobody wants to get that. Yeah. Somebody says, bring your iPad to the office. You know, ⁓ it's, it's the, it's the death knell, but like they, and then you see the guy walk in and they don't Hard Knocks doesn't have. And you probably see it in the show, like in the offices, they don't have a guy. There's they have hidden cameras. They have cameras set up, so that they captured. Yeah. They capture the action, but they don't.

Jacqueline Hanzl (29:45)
Bringing that iPad sounds scary to me.

Diana (29:47)
Ugh.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (30:10)
like in that lobby and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Jason Godbey (30:13)
They don't have anybody right there in somebody's face with a camera,

Jacqueline Hanzl (30:15)
There. Yeah. Right.

Jason Godbey (30:18)
which work, you know, which is, is, know, good. But when I saw that they didn't do that and they really weren't harping on cuts, which is for other seasons, that's the thing. Like, like the whole thing is like here, look at these nice young people. And Oh my God, you're going to be like Hard Knocks is going to you like, endear you to these, you know, three or four guys who were just like the.

Jacqueline Hanzl (30:25)
Hmm.

That's the thing. Okay.

Jason Godbey (30:41)
the salt of the earth and they're like the goodest guy and then, know, inevitably it's like a horror movie, you know, like, don't, don't, don't get too attached to Timmy cause he's probably not going to make it to the season, but like the, whole, um, that, and that's a lot of that is the crux of the show. And they didn't do that this time around. And I didn't know that if they did that just to spice it up, make it a little bit different, or if that was something in the Bills organization, they said, we're not showing that.

Jacqueline Hanzl (30:47)
Yeah. Yeah.

You

Yeah, I don't know.

Jason Godbey (31:09)
we're going to do the season

of Hard Knocks but we're not nobody's in the office when somebody gets cut. ⁓

Jacqueline Hanzl (31:14)
Maybe.

Diana (31:14)
Yeah,

I have to think that the latter, knowing the organization, I think there's some things that are just crossing the line possibly for them and what, you know. But I think to go back to what you said before, these guys absolutely hang out together outside a lot. that like, you you have like your certain group that you're obviously really tight with, whether it's like, you know, the quarterbacks or, you know, like,

Jacqueline Hanzl (31:20)
Yeah.

Diana (31:42)
you the guys that you hang out with. I have no doubt that Ed Oliver, I think it was with the pizza. Was it Ed Oliver? Yeah, like it's a thing and, you know, and ⁓ they definitely miss each other. It like wasn't Ed Oliver's wife too. You just got home. Like it's just like when we go away, we went away. We're like, I miss you already. No, I think that that really does happen. There's no doubt. Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (31:48)
Yes, well, he said it that he started doing these pizza parties. Yeah.

Yeah, she was like, you just came. She's like, you just got back from like, and he's like texting. Yeah. And then you'd keep texting. Yeah. Yeah.

Jason Godbey (32:09)
That stuff is adorable. also, you know, and, and that, that whole, like the, the getting together and the, the dinner thing. See again, like that dinner thing, ⁓ that dinner, it's a scene, you know, like that, you know, that's probably, mean, maybe those guys would have really done that, but you know, there's no doubt in my mind that somebody said, Hey, you guys, you do this, right? So what if we did it in a fancy restaurant? What if we, you know, got you guys here and you know, it's, ⁓

Jacqueline Hanzl (32:11)
It is.

Diana (32:21)
Yeah, that, you know, yeah.

Yeah.

Yes. Yeah.

Jason Godbey (32:38)
And also, you know, you don't sometimes you don't see players' wives or kids and things like that. And I'm sure this is all pre-negotiated, you know, beforehand where they're like, Hey, I'll be on the show, but you're not showing my five year old, know, like I'm not doing that. ⁓ so, but it is interesting how, I mean, one thing it's the other thing that's incredible about NFL films is how fast they can turn these shows out. You know, like that isn't, you know, cause

Diana (32:43)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (32:46)
Hmm. yeah.

Right. Right.

That's what we were talking. Yeah. Crazy.

Diana (33:04)
Mm-hmm.

Jason Godbey (33:07)
You know, they've got people, I've always, I would love to see what their workflow is of like, like they, they go out and shoot this stuff and somebody's ingesting footage and somebody starts editing. and then you know, do they call Shriver at the last minute? Like, Hey dude, we're it's it's Monday. got, you got to do, you know, go into the sound booth and nail all this narration down. ⁓ because it's, can't all be written beforehand because they don't know what's going to happen, you know? ⁓ but it's just, there was a beautiful.

Jacqueline Hanzl (33:21)
Right. Now you have to narrate it. I know, like, it's crazy.

Right, right.

Jason Godbey (33:36)
scene with ⁓ Poyer ⁓ when when he takes the field just the first time he's coming back to Buffalo his first time on the field I don't know if you guys remember it was like a little Gatorade scene of them put yeah just no music just all sound design just like sounds happening I don't know if they put it in afterwards or if that was that's what they captured on the day but it's just a brilliant little silent type of moment

Jacqueline Hanzl (33:49)
beforehand than making the Gatorade, yeah.

Diana (33:49)
Yes.

Jason Godbey (34:04)
that got you out of the previous scene and into this new scene. It's just, it's just great filmmaking. mean, these guys are like the Orson Welles of, you know, of sports documentarians. Um, and I noticed moments like that all the time, cause they're in every show. Um, and it's, the slow motion that you gotta love the slow motion, like the, the, uh, the 120 frames per second, the, like all of that stuff, the, and the music too, just

Jacqueline Hanzl (34:06)
Yep. Yeah.

Diana (34:07)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (34:10)
It is.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yep.

Diana (34:21)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (34:25)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah,

Jason Godbey (34:33)
that theme. The theme is terrific. The and

Jacqueline Hanzl (34:33)
the music, that theme gets me. Yep.

Jason Godbey (34:37)
the you know, like, don't even I don't watch football. I don't watch football. I have I couldn't tell you who won the Super Bowl last year. I don't care. I really don't care about football. But like the fact that they're getting me and lots of other people into this stuff and caring about these guys who don't care about that's just great filmmaking. That's yeah. And

Jacqueline Hanzl (34:42)
Mm-hmm.

Diana (34:45)
you

Jacqueline Hanzl (34:46)
Obviously.

⁓

Yeah, it's powerful. It's powerful.

Jason Godbey (35:02)
And they got it, you know, it starts with who they choose. And, you know, I'm sure they were like, Hey, let's look at the Bills. they got something that's that there's a Bills thing that other teams don't have, you know.

Jacqueline Hanzl (35:12)
Don't have, yeah.

Diana (35:12)
Yeah. And I

think too, like with this is the last year in Highmark, right? So we have the new stadium coming. So that's like a big thing and a kind of like, I don't want to say like a cloud over them, but like it's historical. It's, it's huge, but it's such a monumental, I think moment too, in time, like this is the last year at Highmark, right? And then we're, moving on over. So, ⁓ God, wouldn't it be something? I mean,

Jacqueline Hanzl (35:25)
I mean, it's the last time. Yeah, yeah.

day

one in that last year. Yeah.

Diana (35:43)
Ugh, like,

just chills, chills. I mean, they got the team to do it and that, I don't, you know, I don't think anybody disagrees. ⁓ Not that it's going to be easy one week at a time, but ⁓ they got a nice, know, a good team, a good team. They got the right people there. Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (35:50)
Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

All right.

Jason Godbey (36:06)
It

seemed like even the guys they cut, they were like, this guy has done great this season. you know, they're, mean, of course they're all professional and I like the coach as well. I like Sean McDermott. That's another thing that's very kind of different from team to team that really sets the tone for Hard Knocks, is the coach. ⁓ My favorite coaches, ⁓ this guy, I mean, I like this guy as a coach, but I think the

Jacqueline Hanzl (36:15)
Yeah. Yeah.

Diana (36:16)
he's great. Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (36:24)
Mm. Mm.

Jason Godbey (36:33)
Some of the more entertaining coaches are what I call the move the football coach. That's you gotta to move the football. Like those guys. Like we gotta to keep moving to football, you know, and they call it the football. Like they don't know what sport they're playing. ⁓ but like it's those guys, those guys are precious. They're, think they're getting like fewer and far between because now we have a much more.

Diana (36:39)
Yeah.

you

Jacqueline Hanzl (36:44)
you

Hmm.

Jason Godbey (36:59)
You know, with the Gen Z players, it's like much more kinder, gentler, kind of more philosophical coaching. Like those other guys are we're going to beat the hell out of you till you move the football. those guys, they're precious, but you know, I don't, don't think there's, a lot, there's sort of a new coaching philosophy. Yeah. It's like, you know, let's, let's do yoga and, ⁓ Pilates and, know, the other guys are just like, you know, beat the hell out of you and tell you to take a lap.

Jacqueline Hanzl (37:03)
Yes.

Diana (37:10)
Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (37:15)
There's less of them. They're a dying breed.

Walk barefoot.

Diana (37:24)
walk their foot.

Jason Godbey (37:28)
kind of thing.

Jacqueline Hanzl (37:28)
Yeah.

Diana (37:29)
yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (37:30)
All right, well, I just had the car show, which you talked about, like the fan events. thought that was great. ⁓

Diana (37:36)
Yeah, that

was right at the stadium. I think. Yeah, that was cool.

Jacqueline Hanzl (37:38)
cool.

And then we talked about the content guys. What do they call the content guys who were, Josh Allen with like the social media people. But so those two guys who they did the hot sauce thing with, did you know who those two guys were? ⁓ you didn't. I think they work. I think they're, they're content, literally content guys. If I say that word one more time.

Diana (37:47)
Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I actually they I don't know I haven't

So they do the content for the bill. I don't, I can't

remember like ever seeing them on camera before, honestly. I know that they do like the behind the scenes stuff. I didn't recognize them from.

Jacqueline Hanzl (38:11)
I think they're like videoing him, like Josh Allen, like the, yeah.

Diana (38:14)
Right, and they'll like do like the content,

like the spelling bee, and they set up the, you know, all that nonsense, the fun stuff, but.

Jacqueline Hanzl (38:18)
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I gonna say.

I feel like you and I could do their job really well. ⁓ Why was the one wearing a turtleneck and a vest and it was August or, or, and that was driving me crazy. I was like that and the haircut, the hair did not move.

Diana (38:24)
it'd be fantastic. Yeah. There.

Jason Godbey (38:25)
Those guys were just precious. Like just...

Why did the little blonde guy have that haircut? that was, it's,

Diana (38:35)
Maybe the air conditioning? It was so

weird.

Jason Godbey (38:40)
he looked like he, stepped out of an anime cartoon. I was just like, where did they find, who drew this guy? You know, like, and, they seem to be like picking on Josh Allen. Like they seem to be like messing with them all the time. And I'm like, you know, that guy could like flick you and knock you out. You know, like.

Diana (38:43)
Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (38:43)
Yeah, I don't know. maybe that he was dressed like anime with the vest. That was just bothering me because I felt like it was hot. I don't know.

Diana (38:50)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (38:54)
Well, yeah.

Diana (38:58)
He's

Jacqueline Hanzl (38:59)
But he would never.

Diana (39:02)
a gentle child.

Jason Godbey (39:03)
I mean, he just, he

Jacqueline Hanzl (39:03)
Yes.

Jason Godbey (39:04)
just like, seems like a big sweetheart, but if I were him, I'd be like, Hey, ⁓ can we get these two idiots to stop humiliating me on camera? Like, this is not a good look.

Diana (39:06)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (39:10)
⁓ But they had to have that really

hot sauce. And again, the guy wearing the vest and the turtleneck and eating hot sauce. I don't know what was happening. That was so confusing to me. Precious.

Diana (39:15)
Yeah. I don't know. I didn't get that. I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but I.

Jason Godbey (39:21)
No, those guys were precious, man. Those guys,

Diana (39:26)
Precious. Bless their hearts, I was gonna say.

Jason Godbey (39:26)
as they say in the South, bless their hearts. Like, good God.

Jacqueline Hanzl (39:32)
These are like final thoughts here. Not to brag or anything, but I can do a headstand without wearing a helmet. So just want to say, yeah. Well, you're not supposed to, you're not supposed to put putting the weight on your head. It's your arms. So.

Diana (39:38)
Ouch.

Yeah, I know. Well,

and you're strong. I'm not.

But that was impressive. It was Dion, right? Dion Dawkins? was like gigantic.

Jacqueline Hanzl (39:49)
Yes, yes it was. I think so. Yeah, yeah. People around them were like, my God. ⁓

I just said too, they know how to give you the chills, like the ending and the music and all that. And then the final, the end credits were fantastic. Like the stuff with the microphone. ⁓ my God. That was...

Diana (40:09)
like the blooper type. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was great. That was great.

Jason Godbey (40:13)
That's

a, that's another Hard Knocks staple that they do at the end of episodes and stuff. Cause they, mean, they get so much footage. It seems like they must have an army of guys out there. And I don't know what I've always been curious to see, like, cause certain guys, they were talking about being miked up, you know, like they'll mic up the coach. But how do you mic up a football player who's like, you know, at the line of scrimmage or you know, like in crashing into other people and, ⁓ and the sound is always.

Diana (40:15)
Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (40:16)
They

do that, yeah.

Yes.

Right.

Diana (40:39)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (40:40)
Yeah.

Jason Godbey (40:42)
phenomenal. Like they always get such like, technically it's like perfect. I mean, I'm sure, you know, we're just seeing, you know, the good stuff, but it's always, I'm always so impressed by just the level of, of the, the level of the filmmaking. like, I was wondering, like you, like you hear two guys and they look like they're pretty far away and they're having a conversation. You think, well, one of them has got to be wearing a mic, but where the hell do you put it? You know, like, they, it like in the helmet?

Diana (40:43)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (40:43)
Right.

Yeah.

Right.

Jason Godbey (41:09)
And how does it not get dislodged you know, cause if you wore a normal like lavalier, like if you wore a body mic, all you, all you hear is crashing and pads and you know, like you wouldn't hear anything. but then the fact that they, they, you know, are colliding into other people, I don't know. looks like it's still getting good audio is amazing. ⁓ but they had some good, there were some good stuff and. You know, like the fights and things like that

Diana (41:09)
somewhere in the pads or

Jacqueline Hanzl (41:16)
yeah. Ugh, yeah.

Diana (41:19)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (41:21)
find that out.

Jason Godbey (41:35)
if those aren't, I don't want to say that those are orchestrated for camera. Like I don't think that, you know, the producers are saying, Hey, it'd be great if you two guys could fight, you know, but I do think there is an added pressure when you're competing for a high level job at the NFL, you know, that when then you put a camera in on you as well.

Diana (41:46)
I don't

Jacqueline Hanzl (41:51)
when you're on camera.

Yeah.

Diana (42:00)
Mm-hmm.

Jacqueline Hanzl (42:00)
Yeah.

Jason Godbey (42:01)
You know, so,

Jacqueline Hanzl (42:01)
Yeah.

Jason Godbey (42:02)
which I probably adds a certain kind of other pressure to think, if I fall on my ass, it going to be on HBO? You know, in, two days, ⁓ which, know, who, I don't, I don't know who I would never. This is why I'm always my own editor.

Jacqueline Hanzl (42:05)
Definitely.

Right. Yeah.

Yeah.

That's what I got.

Diana (42:23)
Yeah,

the only thing I would say is probably one of my favorite parts was when Josh was quoting Tommy Boy. ⁓ Look at a butcher and the bulls, you know.

Jacqueline Hanzl (42:33)
Yes. And neither one, neither one knew

that. Neither one of them knew that, I guess.

Diana (42:38)
Yeah,

he's you know on the older side 29. So he you know, he's a big movie guy. He likes to quote movies. There's no doubt That I really like that it was great. That's all I that's all I really had It was fun chatting about them and I miss I'm gonna miss it, but I'm ready tomorrow Well, I know we're recording this the night before the Bills home opener. So I'm pumped. I will be up late

Jacqueline Hanzl (42:42)
Yeah, I know that's awesome.

Yeah. All right. All right.

the home opener. And it's at

home. Yeah. So it's at home. Okay.

Diana (43:05)
Yeah, I

Jason Godbey (43:05)
They finally get

to play. They played the whole preseason. It seemed like somewhere else. Like it seemed like they were on the road the whole time.

Diana (43:10)
went to the one that was home. The first game was in Buffalo. Or was it the second? I think it was the first. Whatever. I went to the only one that was at home and the rest they had on the road. right.

Jacqueline Hanzl (43:12)
She went to the one.

think that was their first, according to the show.

All right. Well, like I said earlier, you can check us out through btrpmedia.com. We are on Instagram, HomeBodiesOnly _ pod, TikTok, HomeBodiesOnly podcast. If you listen on Apple, please give us some stars, five stars, not some, just give us five stars ⁓ and give us a review.

Diana (43:48)
All the stars.

Jacqueline Hanzl (43:51)
That would be great. I love when I see a review. ⁓ I think that's it. ⁓ We're still talking about, And Just Like That, the fashion. We're only halfway through. ⁓ We'll do it though, we'll do it. Yeah, and I guess that's it. I actually, said to Diana, I really liked talking about this series. ⁓ We have not talked about a documentary, a docu-series, and I think that's why it was even more fun because

Diana (43:59)
my gosh. ⁓ you're welcome. Okay, that's okay. We'll finish.

Jacqueline Hanzl (44:20)
you know, we'll talk about characters and get so into them. And it was like, no, these are real people. So that's pretty cool. And I also really liked watching it about sports. was like, is there some other sports docu-series we could watch and talk about? Cause it was fun. It was really fun. A whole new world. There we go.

Jason Godbey (44:34)
If this does well guys, you know, there'll probably be an in season Hard Knocks and there's gonna be

Hard Knocks you guys could you you could be the Hard Knocks show? ⁓ the Hard Knocks watch the Hard the Hard Knocks only the Hard Knocks only show ⁓

Jacqueline Hanzl (44:43)
Hard Knocks. ⁓ Hard Knocks. Home bodies. Yeah, Hard Knocks only.

Diana (44:49)
Yeah.

Jacqueline Hanzl (44:51)
Yeah. All right. Well, thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. Go Bills.

Diana (44:51)
Hard Knocks only. Go Bells.

Jacqueline Hanzl (45:01)
Jason, say go Bills. ⁓

Jason Godbey (45:02)
Do I have to say go?

Go. Go Bills.

Diana (45:06)
There you go. ⁓