Diving into IT: Welcome to Derry S1 E1 The Pilot

Jackie and Jeff dive into the HBO MAX series 'IT: Welcome to Derry.' They discuss the show's premise as a prequel to the IT movies, explore character dynamics, and analyze the emotional depth of the characters, particularly Lily Bainbridge. The conversation touches on the horror elements, including the portrayal of gore and the demon baby, while also raising thematic questions about the connections to the original IT and the military's role in the narrative. 

Chapters

00:00 Intro

01:12 Exploring the Premise and Timeline

02:52 Character Insights and Emotional Connections

05:39 Building the World: Timeline and Setting

08:04 Initial Impressions: Likes and Dislikes

10:09 Gore and Horror Elements

12:55 Thematic Connections and Speculations

15:46 Character Relationships and Future Questions

16:26 Exploring Parental Dynamics

19:01 Unraveling Character Connections

22:10 Fear and Its Manifestations

25:21 The Impact of Choices

27:53 Anticipating Future Developments

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Transcript

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Hi, this is Jackie.

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And this is Jeff.

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Wait a minute.

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HomeBodiesOnly, where we welcome all bodies to join us as we break down and dissect HBO
Max series.

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And this episode, we are talking about IT: Welcome to Derry, The Pilot, the first episode.

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So let's get into it.

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um Jeff is my guest co-host for this series.

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That's why he doesn't know what to say.

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It's fine.

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am.

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Don't worry, I'll get better.

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Stick around.

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Okay.

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So in case you didn't know, IT: Welcome to Derry is a horror series that serves as a
prequel to the 2017 and 2019 IT movies.

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I had thought it was a prequel to the book, and then I was getting very confused with the
dates.

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I was like, how is it 1962?

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What do you mean it's 1962?

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So it makes sense now.

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It explores the origins of Pennywise in Derry.

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The first season, they're talking about it by the way, like it's already aired like three
seasons.

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It says like the first season, which premiered on October 26th, 2025, it's set in 1962.

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The three season plan, if they get it, is to delve into Pennywise's history through
different 27 year cycles.

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So yeah, the second season would go back 27 years and then the third season would go back.

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27 years and I am trying to remember because now I can't obviously do the math that
quickly.

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But the first, if they go to the third season, the third season will talk about something
like 1905 or something like that.

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So I guess go way back.

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Yeah.

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So I thought that was interesting.

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Yeah.

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That sounds cool, right?

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All right.

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So in this first episode, it's four months after a classmate.

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vanishes.

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have Teddy, Phil, Lily, and Ronnie investigate missing children and strange events in
Derry and Major Leroy Hanlon faces a cold welcome at the Derry Air Force Base.

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Hmm, he does.

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Very much.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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So I'm going to start with, we're to do love hate.

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If there's any I can relate.

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I did not have any fashion yet.

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And then we have some thoughts and questions that we will go into.

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So for my loves, I love Lily Bainbridge.

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I think she is...

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I don't know if this word sounds funny, but she's like tender.

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I don't know, like she's vulnerable.

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Like you feel like she could cry any second.

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Like, and you just feel so badly for her.

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um There's way too much she's gone through in her short life, especially.

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she reminded me of the female, uh, Bev yeah.

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Yeah, for sure.

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I mean.

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just wanted to hug her.

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uh She and Matty together was very sweet.

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um I thought that scene, I liked, I loved the cool lookout spot that they were at.

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um yeah, and Leroy Hanlon having some whiskey with his, what would he be to him?

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Sorry, I'm so.

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The superior officer?

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I don't know.

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Yeah, what's that guy's name?

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That actor's name?

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He's been in a ton.

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but he was in Sex and the City and I believe he played Richard and yeah, and Samantha.

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that was like the first man we saw Samantha fall in love with.

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So just FYI.

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I'll have to go back and check my notes on Sex and the City.

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was a big one.

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They played like Sade It was amazing anyway.

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It's a whole thing.

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Okay, let's see.

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Oh, I loved how Russo helped Hanlon right?

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It's Russo, And then when Phil, oh my God.

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When Phil corrects Teddy with ani, the plural form of anus I don't even know if that's
true, but he's like.

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that.

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You talk about, he was like, because Phil doesn't believe him with, I think, seeing like
the skin lampshade.

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And so, so he's like, what you believe, you know, all this stuff about aliens and
everything, probing through our anuses or something like that.

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And he's like, ani

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That's alright.

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Alright, that's good.

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All right.

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That's what I had for loves.

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What about you?

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Or likes, I don't know.

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Yeah, I don't...

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oh

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I didn't necessarily have any like loves or likes.

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I'm more so along the line like it definitely drew me in this whole episode like where are
things going because and then I was struggling I guess it's all right I'm gonna just go

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off script here I'm gonna something I didn't necessarily not like it but I guess it drew
me in maybe a little bit more but I was like what's up with the timeline and where are we

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going like

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Mm-hmm.

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I couldn't really tell, which I think is a good thing, ultimately, they're building up the
world, you know, because we have the opening scene, and presumably that's the night he, um

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what's the young boy's name, Matty, disappears, and...

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And then it feels like it kind of jumps around a lot to me.

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Because then it opens with him in the movie theater and it ends with them in the movie
theater and he's in the movie.

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So I was like, okay, I like that.

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Mm-hmm.

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So stuff like that is really cool to me with their playing around with like the timeline
and I almost felt like there's, I don't know, kind of a time travel thing.

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Not necessarily time travel, it was, it's a little, yeah, yeah, dimensional, there you go.

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What's a better word for it?

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What I was thinking.

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So, I mean, I love the look of it, you know, think they're doing a pretty great job with
capturing that early 60s vibe.

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Mm-hmm.

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when they were up at that hideout spot.

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oh

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I thought that was really cool.

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Sometimes like some of the set design with the CGI and stuff kind of threw me off a little
bit.

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Did you notice that at all?

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I was thinking about that.

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I was like, that definitely wasn't all real.

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Like, I don't know what was real, you know?

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Yeah, I mean, it's getting a little hard to tell, but the stuff at the Air Force base, was
like, that looks like a green screen or something, but...

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So I think I have more questions about what's going to go on rather than...

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I haven't made my mind up yet about what I like.

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Me too.

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Well, all right.

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So I know I was trying to find just like little moments in it that I liked.

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I think the child actors were really good, even though we're not going to see most of them
next time.

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I don't think.

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Pretty sure they all died.

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Pretty much.

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there you go.

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I I have to, was like, when that, when the scene at the end happened, I was like, okay,
well, they're gonna have to do flashbacks or something, right?

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Like, yeah, because they were great.

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I thought they were, they, their acting was really great.

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I thought, what's his?

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I felt like I started to get connected to all of them.

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Like I, the little snapshot.

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Phil was kind of like a bit of a shithead.

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He's a little, he's a little annoying, but he's great acting though.

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Great, great.

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I mean, they all, they all were.

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So that's definitely, definitely a plus.

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I mean, all the casting too, was like really awesome.

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good.

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Yeah.

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I'll get into my hates then.

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I will tell you, I did not like to watch the birth.

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I was like, that was unnecessary.

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I was dying.

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It's so funny.

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My 10 year old knew I was watching it and he's like, do you think I'm like, no, definitely
can't watch this one.

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I felt like that was.

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super not necessary to show it.

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I mean, it looked super fake to me too, but it was also, you know, yeah.

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I thought that was kind of gross.

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Absolutely.

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mean, so do you, how do you deal with gore and like slashes and that and like.

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bother me.

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Um, the only time...

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was funny.

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When there's so much of it, I'm like, I don't know.

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don't, don't.

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People are comparing this.

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I did not watch Game of Thrones.

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And on the Facebook fan page that I did join, cause there's a few of them, uh they're
comparing this to apparently the red wedding.

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Is that what it's called?

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A scene from the Game of Thrones.

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Like they're like putting it up there or the red wedding episode or whatever it is.

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I don't know.

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Cause I don't know.

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didn't.

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I didn't watch Game of Thrones.

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Oh my god, they're like, we're like the only two people I think in the world.

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um Did you try to watch it?

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Okay, I did.

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was one of those things where was like everybody you gotta watch Game of Thrones you gotta
watch Game of Thrones.

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was like no, I'm never watching it.

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Not because, I mean, I'm just kidding but I just never got to it.

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Actually, I've talked about this before on this podcast.

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I, the first episode, the brother and sister are sleeping together.

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And I was like, no, I'm like, no, no, I'm done.

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I'm done.

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I'm done.

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I'm What do you mean?

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I don't know.

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That really bothered me.

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was like, I'm Anyway, moving on to this.

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Okay.

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The demon baby really didn't scare me.

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I don't know.

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I was just like, I don't know what it was.

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I kept watching it.

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I was like,

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I mean, obviously if this happened in real life to me, I'd be hysterical, but it was over
to me.

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my God.

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It was overdone.

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And I was like, okay, you're gross.

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You're a baby with wings, bat wings, whatever you are.

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I don't know.

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I got annoyed.

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I really did.

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This is how I am with horror stuff.

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I get annoyed when it's too much.

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I'm like.

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yeah, get that.

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I was like a mix.

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I was like, oh, this thing's pretty gruesome looking.

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But I think the way they shot it sometimes, like with it creeping up over the backseat, I
kind of started laughing at one point.

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But I'll do that sometimes with certain like sometimes in your situation.

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It's like stressful.

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Like I just laugh but And I'm not I wasn't stressed watching it, but I know it was
supposed to be serious and dramatic didn't it didn't come across as they were playing it

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like With like a wink and a nod or anything like that.

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It was going for drama

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I was more antsy like when they were doing the trouble, trouble, trouble, like that, was
like, ugh, like that got to me in a good way.

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Like that creepy, like, yeah.

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And like how he's like, watch out.

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And like the way they did that, that gave me like more of, ooh, this is bothering me in a
good way.

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I like this.

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And then, and when he started to walk toward,

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them and his face.

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He looked like Pennywise.

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I'm like, my God, is he Pennywise?

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No, he's not Pennywise.

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But the kid like did this face or whatever they did to him.

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And I was like, that's good.

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That's good.

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was like, oh God, I knew it.

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I was like, damn it.

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He's holding that baby.

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He's holding that stupid baby.

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And I knew it was going to happen.

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And like, I don't know that.

223
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It almost would have been scarier if the kid like started to be wack, weird, not turned
into a demon, but come out and like attack them.

224
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To me, that would have been scarier because it's their friend, you I don't know.

225
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I just kind of thought that.

226
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did you notice the...

227
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So that scene is kind of crazy because sometimes the characters are...

228
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They themselves are afraid of the Bat Baby.

229
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The flying baby, you know.

230
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Demon baby, sorry.

231
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Demon baby sounds more scary.

232
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And then...

233
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At other times they're kind of like laughing.

234
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uh I don't know if you caught that, but I was like, in the car, in the car, in the scene
in the beginning, the parents and the kids, they're like...

235
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cause something was up with them obviously.

236
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Yeah, that was, yeah.

237
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Well, don't know if you caught that uh piece of audio that came across on the radio, like
the airwaves about mutant babies.

238
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um There was a lot of weird stuff with that scene and, you know, like necrosis and then
the comment, was it the dad talking about his

239
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daughter or the mom and dad are talking about their daughter not being able to keep her
legs closed.

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I was like what's going on man?

241
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It was like really bizarre.

242
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don't know.

243
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I'm wondering if we're gonna get back to all of that.

244
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feel like any of it was done.

245
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I'm hoping, you know, everything was done with a purpose and we'll find out what the heck
is happening.

246
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um Yeah, I that's well, that's when I can move on to thoughts.

247
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um I also I hated I said I'm that most of the cast died in the first episode.

248
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So we'll see what happens with that.

249
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um I didn't have any I can relate that just that that

250
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some thoughts.

251
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Clearly there's some connection between the military base and these occurrences.

252
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Is it, is there alien stuff?

253
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I mean.

254
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paranormal, like dimension like you said something about like sound that seemed like they
went to another dimension.

255
00:14:52,246 --> 00:15:04,833
Right, could be dimensional or there's, I mean, they've dropped some of the like, you
know, Cold War, Atomic Age, you know, sort of lore world building stuff.

256
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So.

257
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I'm all in.

258
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I'm excited to see where they go with it because I love that stuff and I love that time
period.

259
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Yeah.

260
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Teddy Uris, I don't know if this is definitely confirmed, I honestly, it's more from the
fan page and just different things I've seen, but Teddy Uris is possibly Stanley Uris's

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uncle.

262
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Stanley was the one in the 1990 movie who killed himself.

263
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um And they think like Donald the brother.

264
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Well, obviously couldn't be, could be Teddy Uris could not be the dad if he died in the
movie theater.

265
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um

266
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Leroy Hanlon is Mike Hanlon's grandfather.

267
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That's another, yeah, not his father, his grandfather.

268
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That's why, like the time is different.

269
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um So that's what I got there.

270
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So some things I found out and then um just my thoughts, like obviously the connection
with the military base and stuff.

271
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Do you want to go into questions?

272
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uh

273
00:16:14,327 --> 00:16:20,646
well, I was thinking about, well, I'm wondering the...

274
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forget her name.

275
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What's the female, the young female?

276
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Lily.

277
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Yeah.

278
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So yeah, I'm wondering if we're gonna get to meet her dad that died.

279
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Like flashback, okay, yeah.

280
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yeah.

281
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and what that's all about.

282
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Also, did you catch in beginning how they...

283
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Somebody that was working at the movie theater was like, oh, they referenced Matty's
parents or like what goes on at that house or something like that.

284
00:16:54,433 --> 00:17:03,293
So I was wondering, you know, like we try to think right now, we didn't get to meet like
any of the parents of any of the kids.

285
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Except for Lily's mom, I guess.

286
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She came into her bedroom.

287
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Yes.

288
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And we did, um well, we did see Teddy's parents, that whole scene at the table.

289
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And he was asking about, yeah, that's right.

290
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yeah.

291
00:17:24,836 --> 00:17:30,799
but Matty's parents, don't, and he's almost, I mean, what was that?

292
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Was that microfiche back then?

293
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I don't know, when they're going through the newspaper and they're, um they're trying to
research, you know, or what's in, what's been documented.

294
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he's sort of,

295
00:17:46,286 --> 00:17:49,387
they present that he was like a runaway.

296
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Yes, and the dad I think was even a suspect.

297
00:17:52,702 --> 00:17:53,603
Yeah.

298
00:17:54,525 --> 00:18:06,616
so yeah I'm wondering how the parents are all gonna get pulled in and if they will
especially Matty's parents

299
00:18:06,616 --> 00:18:07,487
Yeah.

300
00:18:08,790 --> 00:18:09,742
Oh.

301
00:18:10,225 --> 00:18:11,871
You're like, why was he?

302
00:18:14,489 --> 00:18:17,052
Why was he the first victim?

303
00:18:17,052 --> 00:18:18,868
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

304
00:18:20,180 --> 00:18:32,622
Yeah so he because I guess I'm confused because it's he kind of looks like IT right so but
this isn't

305
00:18:33,315 --> 00:18:36,332
This can't be the origins of IT if it's gonna go back.

306
00:18:36,332 --> 00:18:37,163
Yeah.

307
00:18:37,898 --> 00:18:55,938
So Yeah, so I'm a lot of course I do have a whole thing I was like, alright, okay, so they
put down Oh, I'm gonna go jump back for a second one thing I did like was I guess he was

308
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maybe a private but the the guy in the who was driving the Jeep the military

309
00:19:02,108 --> 00:19:17,861
And he was like, I don't know, I just like that guy because he was the way he was kind of
like, telegraphing, was just, you know, given uh the test pilot, was he a major or what's

310
00:19:17,861 --> 00:19:17,985
it?

311
00:19:17,985 --> 00:19:19,345
I forgot his character's name.

312
00:19:19,345 --> 00:19:24,587
um Who got into the all, is it Hanlon?

313
00:19:24,608 --> 00:19:25,688
Yeah, yeah, Leroy.

314
00:19:25,688 --> 00:19:30,326
uh He was like giving him these looks, you know, and like.

315
00:19:30,326 --> 00:19:39,526
given him the stink eye like several times and it's like so I don't know I like how we
play that and that's another question like what's this guy you have to say what's he going

316
00:19:39,526 --> 00:19:53,686
to communicate to him or what you know all of that so there's there's lot going on in this
episode in terms of like just planting things here and there I felt like it's a lot of you

317
00:19:53,686 --> 00:19:59,566
know all these things in different places that are probably going to get you know closer

318
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That's the story goes along.

319
00:20:01,344 --> 00:20:05,932
And I did rewatch parts of it, but I couldn't watch the part in the car.

320
00:20:05,932 --> 00:20:07,414
I couldn't watch it a second time.

321
00:20:07,414 --> 00:20:07,985
I really couldn't.

322
00:20:07,985 --> 00:20:13,794
And I did maybe forget some things, but I was like, I can't watch it

323
00:20:13,794 --> 00:20:25,134
did watch that twice and that's how I noticed when the characters were playing, they were
at times they were, that whole thing was just like off the wall because like, like the

324
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dialogue.

325
00:20:26,534 --> 00:20:39,034
mean, when the second time I watched it and then like, Matty comes up to the car and I
forget what the dad says, but I just like, he like pokes his head around like his wife and

326
00:20:39,034 --> 00:20:39,614
he says something.

327
00:20:39,614 --> 00:20:41,485
I was like, ah yeah, this is going to be a shit show.

328
00:20:41,485 --> 00:20:42,038
Yeah.

329
00:20:42,038 --> 00:20:44,398
Like, this is gonna be...

330
00:20:44,398 --> 00:20:45,718
You know, and it was.

331
00:20:45,718 --> 00:20:46,698
And the liver!

332
00:20:46,698 --> 00:20:47,793
The liver!

333
00:20:47,793 --> 00:20:49,444
What was that?

334
00:20:50,184 --> 00:20:53,246
and then blood on her finger.

335
00:20:53,246 --> 00:20:54,306
Yes.

336
00:20:55,006 --> 00:20:58,728
And then when his, see, then I was thinking, is that a connection?

337
00:20:58,728 --> 00:21:01,739
When his fingers came through the drain while they were bloody.

338
00:21:01,739 --> 00:21:10,152
So I guess it was just gross, but I was like thinking about when he poked his fingers up
and Lily saw them, I was like, they're bloody, kind of like the girl's in the car.

339
00:21:10,152 --> 00:21:13,163
does that, but then I was also,

340
00:21:13,219 --> 00:21:15,050
going back to like the fear thing.

341
00:21:15,050 --> 00:21:18,590
Like Pennywise always feeds off the fears.

342
00:21:18,590 --> 00:21:29,924
Like the kid uh hearing the story about, um you know, answer, the Jewish people being, you
know, skinned and used for lampshades.

343
00:21:29,924 --> 00:21:33,074
And then that's how he sees his lampshade as a skin.

344
00:21:33,295 --> 00:21:42,577
So I thought too with Lily, I was like, well, wait, because the whole thing with her dad
being killed and her blaming herself.

345
00:21:43,281 --> 00:21:49,726
Um, I was thinking about, I was like, okay, how did that happen with like him coming out
of the drain?

346
00:21:49,726 --> 00:21:50,083
I don't know.

347
00:21:50,083 --> 00:21:53,319
Like, I was like, is that something like his fingers came out and they were bloody?

348
00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:57,712
Like that I was like overthinking that, but I don't know.

349
00:21:58,321 --> 00:22:01,735
And then she had the little girl's hand in her hand.

350
00:22:02,897 --> 00:22:03,817
I could be overthinking it.

351
00:22:03,817 --> 00:22:07,660
Like, does that have to do because her dad sounded like he got chopped up?

352
00:22:08,341 --> 00:22:08,788
I don't know.

353
00:22:08,788 --> 00:22:09,649
Yeah.

354
00:22:10,701 --> 00:22:14,768
but I could have been just overthinking everything.

355
00:22:14,768 --> 00:22:28,563
well, that's what that episode did, I think, was just like, it's definitely not like point
A to point B, this all gets wrapped up, so.

356
00:22:28,563 --> 00:22:29,443
no.

357
00:22:30,144 --> 00:22:31,374
Also, what's up?

358
00:22:31,374 --> 00:22:33,536
must, is there something with the, with turtles?

359
00:22:33,536 --> 00:22:40,339
Because there was a turtle and they were like duck and cover, you know, at the school.

360
00:22:40,339 --> 00:22:43,171
And then the turtle was like giving out stuff information.

361
00:22:43,171 --> 00:22:46,793
And then that turtle charm for her bracelet.

362
00:22:47,073 --> 00:22:48,696
There has to be a connection there.

363
00:22:48,696 --> 00:22:54,861
Yeah, I was like, it's some kind of like, don't know if it had anything to do with like
the sewers or something.

364
00:22:54,861 --> 00:22:59,265
like, you know, a symbol of water or, you know, I don't know.

365
00:23:02,026 --> 00:23:07,391
Yeah, I mean, I kind of want, I wish the next episode was like tonight, but it's not.

366
00:23:07,391 --> 00:23:11,534
uh It's close, it's close, yeah.

367
00:23:13,814 --> 00:23:14,381
So.

368
00:23:14,381 --> 00:23:14,961
Yeah.

369
00:23:14,961 --> 00:23:17,503
So overall we both liked it, right?

370
00:23:17,503 --> 00:23:18,884
Both liked it.

371
00:23:19,284 --> 00:23:20,665
Sucked us in.

372
00:23:22,086 --> 00:23:24,267
Didn't think we were going to have a lot to talk about.

373
00:23:25,429 --> 00:23:26,314
But we did.

374
00:23:26,314 --> 00:23:27,785
No, I have one other question too.

375
00:23:27,785 --> 00:23:48,613
When Phil and Teddy are hanging out in their bedroom, they're working on their comic book
or whatever, their story, they say something about getting paid in candy to go to Matty's

376
00:23:49,174 --> 00:23:50,855
birthday party.

377
00:23:51,356 --> 00:23:54,268
But it sounded like his parents...

378
00:23:55,154 --> 00:24:09,979
gave them the candy and then and then at the end at the end Matty says or something like
okay you know they're like yeah come on come on you know come get out of there or whatever

379
00:24:09,979 --> 00:24:21,014
and he's like get out of there he's like I can't you guys you know it's your fault or
whatever he said you you're the reason I'm in here hmm so

380
00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:31,105
Well, they were all blaming, they kind of were blaming themselves, even though they're
like, maybe if we went to the, well, Phil wasn't, but Teddy was, Teddy was.

381
00:24:31,105 --> 00:24:32,650
What's up with that too, right?

382
00:24:32,650 --> 00:24:33,460
They...

383
00:24:33,964 --> 00:24:34,780
It seemed like...

384
00:24:34,780 --> 00:24:37,563
if we went to his birthday party, things would have ended up differently.

385
00:24:37,563 --> 00:24:41,178
Because they don't really know, they don't know what happened to him, you know?

386
00:24:41,178 --> 00:24:43,830
And then even um Lily.

387
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:47,066
go to the birthday party because the parents gave them the candy.

388
00:24:48,194 --> 00:24:49,557
I didn't think they went though.

389
00:24:49,557 --> 00:24:52,201
I thought that was the whole thing that they didn't end up going.

390
00:24:52,764 --> 00:24:53,775
I think they did.

391
00:24:53,775 --> 00:25:07,104
think what you're referencing is, it's a guess, but is that they were supposed to meet him
at the movies.

392
00:25:07,564 --> 00:25:13,088
Or at least um one of them.

393
00:25:13,088 --> 00:25:14,169
Why can't I remember?

394
00:25:14,169 --> 00:25:14,649
Lily.

395
00:25:14,649 --> 00:25:15,090
Yeah.

396
00:25:15,090 --> 00:25:21,153
Maybe Lily was supposed to meet him at the movies because it's like, that's where this,
was like.

397
00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:21,832
Mmm.

398
00:25:21,832 --> 00:25:22,573
What's going on with this?

399
00:25:22,573 --> 00:25:24,234
That's why I more questions than anything else about this.

400
00:25:24,234 --> 00:25:28,706
Because it starts with him in the movie theater watching that movie.

401
00:25:30,208 --> 00:25:33,009
He's by himself, by himself obviously.

402
00:25:33,891 --> 00:25:42,547
then, so when they talk about that at the end, that didn't happen.

403
00:25:42,547 --> 00:25:44,177
They didn't meet him there.

404
00:25:44,218 --> 00:25:48,440
And then they're watching the movie and he's on the screen in the movie.

405
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,461
yes, that's true.

406
00:25:49,461 --> 00:25:50,242
Yes.

407
00:25:50,242 --> 00:26:02,079
Also, I think Lily kicks herself too because he tried to kiss her and she rejected him and
that too.

408
00:26:02,717 --> 00:26:03,639
Yeah.

409
00:26:04,467 --> 00:26:06,009
that was a great scene between them.

410
00:26:06,009 --> 00:26:08,272
That was really well acted.

411
00:26:08,501 --> 00:26:09,441
Yeah.

412
00:26:10,525 --> 00:26:11,355
Yeah.

413
00:26:13,141 --> 00:26:14,729
Definitely interesting.

414
00:26:15,102 --> 00:26:19,102
Yeah, so I mean, I'm excited to see where episode two picks up.

415
00:26:19,102 --> 00:26:23,382
mean, there's a lot to go on.

416
00:26:25,701 --> 00:26:31,368
And I hope we don't see the demon baby anymore because I not doing anything for me.

417
00:26:33,192 --> 00:26:34,364
Just got bigger and bigger.

418
00:26:34,364 --> 00:26:35,274
was like,

419
00:26:38,825 --> 00:26:39,607
Heh.

420
00:26:40,121 --> 00:26:42,302
I didn't mind it too much.

421
00:26:42,742 --> 00:26:45,516
you know, I felt like

422
00:26:45,516 --> 00:26:58,206
the way it was all directed that maybe the tone was like not too serious because of the
almost kitschy feel of the opening scene.

423
00:26:58,347 --> 00:27:04,592
then, and you know, so it's like, all right, maybe they're kind of walking this line with,
you know, is it like supposed to be super?

424
00:27:04,592 --> 00:27:13,459
Cause I think there's, mean, from the little that we've seen and a little that I've seen
trailer wise, like there's probably, probably going to be some pretty menacing, scary

425
00:27:13,459 --> 00:27:14,780
stuff coming up.

426
00:27:15,055 --> 00:27:15,936
Yeah.

427
00:27:17,059 --> 00:27:17,979
Yeah.

428
00:27:19,063 --> 00:27:19,780
Yeah.

429
00:27:19,780 --> 00:27:23,420
that ending scene was pretty scary.

430
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,480
I'm not like Mr.

431
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,680
Horror Movie slasher.

432
00:27:28,060 --> 00:27:35,444
I I like him, but I'm not the Bible with that stuff.

433
00:27:35,444 --> 00:27:36,785
No, no, neither.

434
00:27:36,785 --> 00:27:37,287
Me neither.

435
00:27:37,287 --> 00:27:37,848
All right.

436
00:27:37,848 --> 00:27:42,835
Well, I don't think I have anything else.

437
00:27:43,337 --> 00:27:44,644
Nope, nothing else.

438
00:27:44,644 --> 00:27:46,626
I'm ready to see the next episode.

439
00:27:47,568 --> 00:27:50,291
Except I'm ready to see the next episode.

440
00:27:50,372 --> 00:27:51,292
I am.

441
00:27:51,763 --> 00:27:52,783
Yeah.

442
00:27:53,175 --> 00:27:53,576
Yep.

443
00:27:53,576 --> 00:27:56,891
that's everything that all the notes that I had on it and

444
00:27:58,316 --> 00:27:58,801
Okay.

445
00:27:58,801 --> 00:28:02,074
just want to know about that timeline, but I guess I'm have to wait.

446
00:28:02,074 --> 00:28:02,414
you are.

447
00:28:02,414 --> 00:28:06,406
And maybe you'll only get a little snippet.

448
00:28:07,287 --> 00:28:08,568
Keep you wanting to come back.

449
00:28:08,568 --> 00:28:09,768
Yeah.

450
00:28:09,768 --> 00:28:10,179
All right.

451
00:28:10,179 --> 00:28:16,292
Well, you can check out HomebodiesOnly on btrpmedia.com.

452
00:28:16,292 --> 00:28:31,000
There's a, we are there and some other podcasts are there and also homebodiesonly.com and
we are on all audio podcast platforms as well as on YouTube and

453
00:28:31,198 --> 00:28:32,489
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454
00:28:33,072 --> 00:28:37,879
You can check Jeff out at Jeff Kadlic at Instagram.

455
00:28:39,075 --> 00:28:42,085
And champ tone guitars if you're a guitar player.

456
00:28:42,168 --> 00:28:42,959
Yeah.

457
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All right, everybody.

458
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Thank you for listening, for watching.

459
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Bye.

460
00:28:48,737 --> 00:28:49,181
All right.

461
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Catch you later.