IT: Welcome to Derry S1 E2 The Thing in the Dark Better NOT Be That Demon Baby

Jackie and Jeff delve into the second episode of HBO Max's IT: Welcome to Derry, The Thing in the Dark. They explore character dynamics, themes of trauma and guilt, and critique the horror elements of the show. The discussion also touches on racial tensions within the community, the supernatural implications of the narrative, and the artistic direction that evokes a Norman Rockwell aesthetic while revealing dark secrets beneath the surface. The hosts express their emotional responses to the characters and their development, setting the stage for future episodes.

00:00 Intro

03:41 Character Insights and Military Themes

08:20 Gore and Horror: Balancing Scares with Story

12:01 Character Trauma and Emotional Depth

16:01 Missed Opportunities in Storytelling

22:43 Social Commentary and Racial Tensions

23:57 Supernatural Elements and Historical Context

25:25 Project Precept and Its Implications

27:54 Native American Representation and Cultural Ties

35:12 Art Direction and Thematic Contrasts

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Transcript

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Hi, this is Jackie.

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and this is Jeff.

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And this is HomeBodiesOnly where we welcome all bodies to join us as we break down and
dissect HBO Max series.

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And this episode, we are talking about season one of IT: Welcome to Derry, the second
episode, The Thing in the Dark.

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All right, I got a little summary here.

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It's literally from HBO Max.

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while Charlotte and Will navigate their new life in Derry,

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Ronnie worries about her father's fate.

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Obviously more than that happens, but.

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All right, did you do any loves?

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That's all they give you on HBO, yeah.

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But that's okay.

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Do you have loves?

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I have a couple.

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do.

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Yup.

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Let's see.

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Well, I mean, I...

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You know, love for me is kind of a strong word, but okay, I'll go with that.

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The...

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I'm gonna...

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Can I use the word like?

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Oh, okay.

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I know.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm blowing up the format.

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Yeah.

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sensitive.

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Okay.

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I like how the story is expanding in this episode.

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Like it's getting a little bigger.

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I do love that.

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So I'll say I'll use that word.

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Yeah.

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particularly with the Department of Defense stuff and the Air Force and all the military
activity I liked Getting to spend some time with some of those guys.

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That was cool

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that was one of, yeah, that was definitely one of my loves as well.

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I really liked the military side of the story.

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I think it's really interesting.

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um And I kind of, it kind of surprised me in a way.

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I didn't think I was, I didn't think I was into that, but I liked it.

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Well, I guess, you know, it's secret.

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It's interesting, obviously.

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Okay, I love Will Hanlon.

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He is the cutest little thing.

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Of like I feel bad for him.

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um He is adorable.

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And I also love Charlotte, his mom.

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love, uh cause she's strong and yeah, I just into that.

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um I loved how Leroy figured out it wasn't Masters uh That whole military, you know, that
whole thing.

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That was awesome.

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That took me, that did take me by surprise.

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I don't know.

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I was like, oh, like had no.

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where that was going.

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So I was, I loved that.

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Yeah, I loved that with the gun.

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I just, I that was really cool.

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that stuff too.

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That was like a little bit of a procedural kind of thing, you know, where he's like, okay,
I'm going to bring this gun in and I know how this works.

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And so, yeah, that was really great.

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What's his...

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He's not a general.

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uh Is he a general?

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me.

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No, because you know what?

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I know he's not a general because I looked up James Leroy and I know he's not a general
because James Reamer, the one from Sex and the City is General Shaw.

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Cause I actually have to look up his name.

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He's the general.

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So I don't know.

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I'm not sure.

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Anyway, whatever styles.

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There you go.

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And that's what I really like that.

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It's not just the horror part.

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It's not just the scary part with the children that we have.

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I mean, I'm sure it's all connected, but I like that there's also this other side of it.

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That helps me because I'm not such the gore horror person.

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So that helps me really stay interested, even though I mean, I like the part with the kids
too, but okay.

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Did you have any hates or dislikes?

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I have one more.

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I have one more.

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Yeah, I did.

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I do.

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Well, actually, I love Little Drummer Boy Rich.

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my gosh, yes.

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He is so cute.

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That poor thing.

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got his drum on the ground.

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looks like the Nutcracker.

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I mean, he looks like a doll too.

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He's this tiny little thing.

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Oh my God.

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He's so cute.

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He's got a great haircut, great look.

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He's adorable.

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Yeah.

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He's cute.

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I'm wondering, so what exactly is he eating when he's hanging out by his locker?

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Because I'm watching him do his thing and I'm like, okay, is that one of those like apple
pie things that came in like the wax paper?

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Or was it, but it was lunch, so I don't think maybe he'd be, I don't know.

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I guess he could be eating, or maybe it was, I thought it was like, is that an empanada?

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It did look like that, but that, like, what, yeah, but back then, I don't know.

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You know, these are the questions we have.

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uh

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he was eating.

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and, um, we might not, but okay.

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Cause that was, that's really all we got of him.

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And then the, there was a smoke bomb incident in the hallway, right?

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Right after that.

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Oh, the stink bomb.

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Yeah.

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crush on Marge.

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who's landed in my hate list.

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That's all I've said.

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I mean, yeah, I know there's more to that.

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Was it Marge or was it one of the other girls?

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Marge, Patty, he was looking, I don't know, seemed to be looking at her, because she was
the one with the glasses and was turning around and I really, they were focusing in on

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her.

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I know, I would think, I hate to say it was one of the other girls, but I think he loves
her.

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Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

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That makes sense.

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Okay, yeah.

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do want me to go to hate?

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Or you want to do hate?

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Okay.

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I hate that they showed the demon baby again.

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I was like, we get it.

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We understand what happened.

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um I did listen to part of the HBO's official podcast for the show.

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And they said, you know, in case you weren't sure, they had to show, like, this is the
official podcast for it too.

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like, they had to show the demon baby killing.

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all those kids like to make sure and that demon baby drives me crazy.

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I think I realized why though, yeah.

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They just like a flashback.

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no, it just a little bit, but I was like, uh, it, you know, it, cause it just doesn't,
doesn't do anything for me.

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guess.

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Um, I hated, yeah.

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I hated the kid who pulled the chair out from under Will Hanlon cause that was annoying.

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Um, yeah.

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I hated.

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I hated the kids, the bullies like beating up the kid on the street.

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That drove me nuts.

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um

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Yeah, then you got that one punk ass who's staring down Ronnie's mom like he's gonna beat
her up.

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was like...

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It wasn't Ronnie's mom, no, was Will's mom.

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That's okay, that's okay.

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Speaking of Ronnie's mom, who I know it's hard, it's hard.

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I had to look stuff up.

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I had to look up their names.

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Speaking of Ronnie's mom, that was my next hate.

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This is what I realized, what I don't like about even this show so far.

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The gory scenes are too...

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long.

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It's like those SNL skits that go on where you're like, okay, that was funny.

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And now you're like, it's dragging her under the bedsheets and she got stuck.

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And I'm like, okay, watching her.

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like, oh, I'm like, okay, now she's underwater.

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And then like, she, she looks like she's in a womb.

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Like I knew right away, I was like, it was going to be another birth thing.

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And I think the concept, yes, I get it.

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I think that was actually very good, even though obviously it

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gross and scary and whatever, but it went on for too long.

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That's my problem.

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They go on for too long.

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I don't feel like it needed to go like that.

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I was like, okay, is she drowning?

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Like what's happening?

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That's my problem.

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I don't know.

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I hadn't thought of that actually, but that's a good point.

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and

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So was like, what is it that I don't like about this?

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Like I don't mind like scary, creepy stuff, but I was like, and then just like her mom
saying this, I was like, we get it.

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She's dead.

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Like, okay.

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There's even...

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Yeah, I'm struggling at times uh so far with the tone of those types of scenes that the
show is going for or has chosen to do because on one hand that scene with Ronnie and her

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mother, uh you know, it's...

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it's graphic and scary and it's obviously it's meant to like be shocking and it is but
then it also I guess I mean the they sort of give her mother's character at the end

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there's like a little punch line with like you know or look at the mess you made or
something and then like part of her falls on the ground and I was like okay you know it

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was a little but the the so that was and then I was also thinking like

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that scene and the pickle party.

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was like thinking about yeah in the the grocery store with with with what's her name?

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as much with Lily.

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Well, what I was getting at is I'm wondering, like, do these scenes move the story ahead?

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Are they doing that?

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know, they're serving the story in any way.

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And I guess the one with Ronnie's mother does because we don't really know that.

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But I felt like the story with...

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Is it Lily?

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The other...

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Yeah, with that, that I was like, I don't really understand other than sort of the monster
of the week thing or whatever.

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Which I get, like that's part of this genre, I think people like to see that stuff and the
creativity that's within it.

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But that one with Lily, I was like, I don't know if this moves the story ahead in any
meaningful way.

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think, only because one of my friends was asking about, do you know their fears yet?

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So this is their weak point.

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This is their, I don't even know if it's fears, but Ronnie, obviously her mother died at
childbirth.

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that's her, it's not even weakness, right?

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It's your guilt or your shame.

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Yeah.

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it's trauma.

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You're right.

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So Lily, her trauma is her father and that's her guilt too because she left her toy or
whatever it was back in the factory.

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He went back into the factory and that's when he died in the pickle factory.

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okay, I missed that.

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Wow, okay.

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I'm so smart.

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I'm just kidding.

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I mean, I had a little help, but there you go.

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So that's the point to me.

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That's the point.

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I mean, I kind of got that already for Lily back.

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Well, they didn't actually, they didn't address the dad actually.

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No, they did not.

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But I thought about, I had thought about it.

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I was like, her like,

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or whatever her fear or whatever it is, is that her father got killed in the pickle, in
the factory.

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but, so the scene with Lily, I think is that obviously like showing him in parts, um but
also it made her look insane.

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So she had to be sent to to Juniper Hill, right?

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um So, so there you go.

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Those are their traumas.

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um

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Yeah, actually, okay, one of my things that I hated was the look at the mess you made that
line from...

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But anyhow, the...

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Chief Bowers, that's for me, I hate that guy because he has no spine.

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I thought like...

229
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I just, my God, you just said Chief Bowers.

230
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So the big, the bad bully in the Stephen King, IT 1990, it's Henry Bowers is the bully.

231
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I didn't, I didn't even realize.

232
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So chief, so obviously there's a relation there.

233
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That's interesting.

234
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Okay.

235
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I didn't realize that was his name.

236
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Well, he's, you know, he's getting pressure from people.

237
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And, but that scene with Lily I was like, ah he's scumbag.

238
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when she went, oh, when he, yeah, when he was getting her to basically, that whole, that
whole thing.

239
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Yeah.

240
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With Ronnie's dad.

241
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It was terrible.

242
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It was terrible.

243
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But that'll be interesting, like going forward, if she's now at that place.

244
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Yeah.

245
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I mean, I hated like the mom sitting there and she's like, don't make me go back.

246
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That girl kills me.

247
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Like she breaks my heart.

248
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That her face, Lily, when she cries, like I would have, if I was her mom, I would not,
there was no way I'd be able to be like.

249
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You're going like she's such a good actor.

250
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Like she breaks your heart.

251
00:14:06,919 --> 00:14:08,351
She's really good.

252
00:14:09,049 --> 00:14:21,249
Yeah, yeah, this is a very just a motive like just without even speaking any lines, you
know, yeah, she's she's really great.

253
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Her mom seems like kind of a jerk, unfortunately, or.

254
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really like trying to put myself in the position of the mother.

255
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Cause I think about, I hate to say, think about like, there's been kids that, you know,
I've worked with that have had psychological, major psychological issues and have had to

256
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go into a place for a little while for treatment.

257
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um Where they're at their, they're at their like end of the rope.

258
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It's like, what do I do?

259
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You know, they're not functioning.

260
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And I'm like, I really like delve deep into my like, well, what would I do?

261
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Especially it was she's screaming and breaking stuff in a grocery store, acting violent
and screaming.

262
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Like I went a little deep in that and I was like, oh, what would I do?

263
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But it's like.

264
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the scene resonated with you in a different way.

265
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Yeah.

266
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yeah.

267
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But also the whole thing with like the heartbreak of the father dying and you gotta be
there for each other.

268
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I don't know, like I was just like, that girl, like, I don't know, that whole storyline
really like kills me.

269
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oh yeah, that's definitely one of the more, I don't know if compelling is the right word,
it's, yeah, it draws you in.

270
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There's a lot of weight in there and it's, yeah, you wanna see more and learn more about
it.

271
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One other thing that I hated, these are very strong words.

272
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I know, I know, I know, I know.

273
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I do not like when, I mean maybe there's more to come, but I don't like when they make the
decision to uh not address the aftermath of the ending of the first episode, which was

274
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like a major event.

275
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And they do address it actually, I'm sorry, but we know the episode doesn't pick up.

276
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with the aftermath of that and like, I don't know, any type of like procedural or line of
questioning or like, you know, the police coming into the theater.

277
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There's just like a line or two in the episode, cause I think, it, does it say like one
week later or something?

278
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And then, and then there's just like these little dribs of drabs about like, well, three
kids got killed in this movie theater, you know, like.

279
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bodies either.

280
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That's what I know.

281
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You're like.

282
00:17:00,055 --> 00:17:03,998
I think, I don't know, maybe we'll see something different, but it felt to me like...

283
00:17:04,419 --> 00:17:05,532
Wept you a little.

284
00:17:05,532 --> 00:17:06,988
Not clo- you need closure.

285
00:17:06,988 --> 00:17:10,008
just feel like I've seen that in some shows too.

286
00:17:10,008 --> 00:17:15,148
Like before, it's kind of like they handle it off screen.

287
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And I hate that.

288
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I hate that.

289
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It's like, no, like it's a missed opportunity to me.

290
00:17:21,588 --> 00:17:22,928
You you could have like.

291
00:17:24,856 --> 00:17:32,496
I mean, I guess they can't do everything all the time, but if they had done a scene where
they went into the theater and like, you know, which of course has been done a million

292
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times, but not in this world per se, you know, you go through and, and, you know, they're
looking through the crime scene and then there's, you know, questioning and there's like,

293
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I don't know.

294
00:17:44,376 --> 00:17:46,076
I, that bummed me out a little bit.

295
00:17:46,076 --> 00:17:50,796
It's just, it was really the, whatever it, whatever it is, I mean, I'm not, you know, on a
right screenplay.

296
00:17:50,796 --> 00:17:54,637
So, but it's, but I just don't like it when they handle that stuff.

297
00:17:54,637 --> 00:17:54,977
uh...

298
00:17:54,977 --> 00:18:04,095
you know like all this is what happened you know can see it yeah so i was thinking about

299
00:18:04,223 --> 00:18:13,848
like the real, like they would cut the scene when there's like a thing and then you don't
get to see the real emotional part of it.

300
00:18:13,848 --> 00:18:18,271
Also too, Lily had the hand of Susie, like in her hand.

301
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Like the whole thing.

302
00:18:19,502 --> 00:18:21,252
It's like, wait, what?

303
00:18:21,892 --> 00:18:22,521
I don't know.

304
00:18:22,521 --> 00:18:27,615
can even, you know, like have some suspension of disbelief with all that.

305
00:18:27,615 --> 00:18:29,906
Like, I mean, yeah, let's just have fun with it.

306
00:18:29,906 --> 00:18:35,350
ah I think maybe they'll go back to it somehow.

307
00:18:35,410 --> 00:18:38,423
But I'm not sure.

308
00:18:38,423 --> 00:18:41,623
It's, we'll see.

309
00:18:41,623 --> 00:18:47,337
don't see the families of the kids at all or anything, but no, not yet.

310
00:18:47,337 --> 00:18:47,857
Yeah.

311
00:18:47,857 --> 00:18:48,757
Yeah.

312
00:18:49,538 --> 00:18:49,709
yeah.

313
00:18:49,709 --> 00:18:53,681
And I, I know I said this kind of earlier, but I do hate Marge and the patty cakes.

314
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,827
Yeah.

315
00:18:55,993 --> 00:18:57,956
course, mean, who's gonna like them?

316
00:18:57,956 --> 00:19:01,111
ah

317
00:19:01,111 --> 00:19:03,691
Did you catch that one of the girl's name?

318
00:19:03,691 --> 00:19:05,951
The one of the girl's name is actually Patty.

319
00:19:06,151 --> 00:19:07,331
Well, I think.

320
00:19:07,487 --> 00:19:09,909
all three, no, I think all three of them are Patty.

321
00:19:09,909 --> 00:19:11,421
think three of them, there's three, right?

322
00:19:11,421 --> 00:19:14,744
There's, I think three of them, I'm guessing this, there three of them are Patty.

323
00:19:14,744 --> 00:19:16,296
That's why they call themselves the Patty cakes.

324
00:19:16,296 --> 00:19:18,317
And then there's Marge with the glasses.

325
00:19:18,318 --> 00:19:19,218
No?

326
00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:21,359
They're not named.

327
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,319
Well, one of them I wrote, I didn't catch all their names.

328
00:19:24,319 --> 00:19:36,339
One is Elaine and there's Marge and then the other girl, the super weird bitchy one is,
that's Patty.

329
00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:42,219
I was like, oh, that's her name.

330
00:19:43,269 --> 00:19:45,741
I honestly thought three of them were named Patty.

331
00:19:45,741 --> 00:19:47,613
That's why they were called Pattycakes.

332
00:19:47,613 --> 00:19:48,374
That's what I thought.

333
00:19:48,374 --> 00:19:51,886
I know, and then they're doing the Pattycake thing in the cafeteria.

334
00:19:51,886 --> 00:19:53,878
that was like a, actually that was a good buildup.

335
00:19:53,878 --> 00:19:55,369
Like the tension and stuff.

336
00:19:55,369 --> 00:19:56,660
I thought that was a good buildup.

337
00:19:56,660 --> 00:19:57,821
um

338
00:19:57,986 --> 00:20:02,069
Yeah, actress who plays, I guess, all right.

339
00:20:02,069 --> 00:20:05,062
So you have to, I don't know what to do.

340
00:20:05,062 --> 00:20:06,133
So you gotta tell me what to do.

341
00:20:06,133 --> 00:20:11,668
Do you refer to male anti-mol actors as actor?

342
00:20:11,668 --> 00:20:12,909
What's going on?

343
00:20:13,890 --> 00:20:14,931
All right.

344
00:20:15,091 --> 00:20:16,272
So I don't either.

345
00:20:16,272 --> 00:20:17,973
So I might make mistakes.

346
00:20:18,655 --> 00:20:19,886
Okay, we'll go with actor.

347
00:20:19,886 --> 00:20:23,628
So the actor that plays Brownie, she's also really amazing.

348
00:20:23,628 --> 00:20:25,933
my God, she's so good.

349
00:20:26,236 --> 00:20:29,284
She looks like she's on the verge of crying all the time in a good way.

350
00:20:29,284 --> 00:20:31,079
Like I'm always like, she's going to cry.

351
00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:39,482
that scene, that cafeteria scene and then of course when she goes over to Lily's and all
that, after her dad gets apprehended.

352
00:20:39,482 --> 00:20:40,224
Ugh.

353
00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:42,770
Might know.

354
00:20:42,931 --> 00:20:44,873
Yeah, no, she's so good.

355
00:20:44,894 --> 00:20:46,657
And I was watching it.

356
00:20:46,657 --> 00:20:53,188
I was trying to watch it a second time, but there were certain parts I just had to skim
over because I'm like, can't watch this again because it's so upsetting.

357
00:20:53,188 --> 00:20:56,893
um

358
00:20:58,711 --> 00:21:01,382
I have one I could relate.

359
00:21:02,601 --> 00:21:10,848
I would have totally ran like Charlotte Hanlon did to break up that fight with those
stupid kids on the street.

360
00:21:11,679 --> 00:21:13,990
God, totally would have.

361
00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:15,651
But that, see that whole thing.

362
00:21:15,651 --> 00:21:18,773
So clearly.

363
00:21:20,645 --> 00:21:28,287
ah So my first impression to be honest was her running over there and breaking it up and
getting these weird looks from the grownups.

364
00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:30,168
And then the kid was like a jerk.

365
00:21:30,448 --> 00:21:34,409
I hate to say probably cause I'm white, but I didn't think about the racial thing.

366
00:21:34,409 --> 00:21:49,073
um And then honestly, I was listening to that podcast and they were talking about the
racial thing that like her getting involved and getting the looks, but not only,

367
00:21:49,401 --> 00:21:53,543
But there's also an element, that's weird.

368
00:21:53,743 --> 00:22:01,327
That's weird that these grown adults are not, no one's, why is no one, like that was
supposed to be a little creepy too, right?

369
00:22:01,327 --> 00:22:03,598
That nobody was doing anything about this.

370
00:22:03,598 --> 00:22:06,422
Cause that's not normal, I would hope.

371
00:22:06,422 --> 00:22:08,334
Well, her character...

372
00:22:08,555 --> 00:22:09,326
What's her name?

373
00:22:09,326 --> 00:22:10,396
Charlotte?

374
00:22:10,938 --> 00:22:13,471
Yeah, her character does say that.

375
00:22:13,471 --> 00:22:15,844
She says, um...

376
00:22:15,844 --> 00:22:19,689
Yeah, these boys were just beatin' up on this kid and nobody...

377
00:22:19,730 --> 00:22:20,240
She thought...

378
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,445
She found it to be strange that no one was doing anything about it.

379
00:22:24,706 --> 00:22:27,107
that would not have been like typical for that time.

380
00:22:27,107 --> 00:22:29,117
I assume someone would have ran out.

381
00:22:29,117 --> 00:22:30,178
That was like terrible.

382
00:22:30,178 --> 00:22:32,628
He's getting like beaten in the face.

383
00:22:32,628 --> 00:22:45,827
So I assume that was a rare but honestly, my first take on it was just that it was creepy
about the town acting that way and seeming like it was okay.

384
00:22:45,827 --> 00:22:47,529
what they were going for.

385
00:22:47,529 --> 00:22:49,311
mean, you know, they're...

386
00:22:50,967 --> 00:22:56,627
there definitely with her with Charlotte's uh...

387
00:22:56,627 --> 00:23:03,364
there's she's definitely an act- you know a bit of an activist you know and and and

388
00:23:03,364 --> 00:23:06,547
were in, yeah, there's, there's stuff.

389
00:23:06,728 --> 00:23:16,157
not really uh skirting around the segregation, racial tension at all.

390
00:23:17,299 --> 00:23:25,227
that I think, obviously we weren't alive then, but that would have been the case,
especially in a town like that.

391
00:23:25,227 --> 00:23:29,212
the Charlotte and...

392
00:23:29,212 --> 00:23:29,782
Leroy?

393
00:23:29,782 --> 00:23:30,962
Is that his name?

394
00:23:31,842 --> 00:23:32,523
I'm gonna get it.

395
00:23:32,523 --> 00:23:36,125
ah He even says something to her.

396
00:23:36,305 --> 00:23:38,246
They kind of like fly by.

397
00:23:38,246 --> 00:23:42,257
There's like a line, you know, like she got into something in Louisiana or something like
that.

398
00:23:42,257 --> 00:23:44,222
Like, she was sitting somewhere.

399
00:23:44,222 --> 00:23:46,129
She was such...

400
00:23:46,569 --> 00:23:47,509
Just...

401
00:23:48,210 --> 00:23:50,290
So, there's...

402
00:23:51,331 --> 00:23:54,297
I mean, yeah, I thought, you know, she's interesting character.

403
00:23:54,297 --> 00:23:58,250
mean, it's like the writing with that character seems really cool so far.

404
00:23:58,250 --> 00:23:58,551
too.

405
00:23:58,551 --> 00:24:05,159
Like I just like that there's more to this than just the gore and the killing and the
Pennywise or whatever it is.

406
00:24:05,159 --> 00:24:14,690
I want to know about the history of Pennywise too, but I like, mean, obviously again, it's
all probably connected, but I like this, these side stories.

407
00:24:15,172 --> 00:24:15,758
Yeah.

408
00:24:15,758 --> 00:24:17,179
kind of the vibe I'm getting.

409
00:24:17,179 --> 00:24:30,667
when, you know, like, uh, everybody in Derry's like on drugs, you know, or like, know,
like, like there's a supernatural element and it's like, uh, coursing through every,

410
00:24:30,667 --> 00:24:31,698
everything that's happening.

411
00:24:31,698 --> 00:24:37,272
And then we get into the, whatever it is, what are they, they're looking for a weapon?

412
00:24:37,414 --> 00:24:38,533
Um,

413
00:24:38,573 --> 00:24:39,758
Project, what is that called?

414
00:24:39,758 --> 00:24:41,318
Project Precept?

415
00:24:41,318 --> 00:24:43,180
watched it again, precept.

416
00:24:43,422 --> 00:24:44,650
And then I looked up.

417
00:24:44,650 --> 00:24:45,482
does that word mean?

418
00:24:45,482 --> 00:24:46,524
I don't know what that means.

419
00:24:46,524 --> 00:24:51,244
I think it's to stop something before it happens, but I'm gonna look it up.

420
00:24:51,244 --> 00:24:52,404
The same exact thing.

421
00:24:52,404 --> 00:24:54,784
I was like, I gotta find out what this word means.

422
00:24:55,664 --> 00:24:56,804
Oh, wait.

423
00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:58,044
A guide.

424
00:24:58,044 --> 00:25:03,504
Oh, no, it's a general rule of conduct, a principle or a commandment that serves as a
guide for behavior.

425
00:25:03,684 --> 00:25:10,424
It can also refer to a specific order from a court or guiding doctrine taught within a
group.

426
00:25:11,464 --> 00:25:12,444
Huh.

427
00:25:12,504 --> 00:25:15,424
Oh, it could mean to take beforehand.

428
00:25:16,668 --> 00:25:22,468
Like, that's what I kept thinking was like, it's like, almost like you gotta stop it
before it happens.

429
00:25:22,468 --> 00:25:24,568
But that's what I thought it meant.

430
00:25:25,188 --> 00:25:26,028
okay.

431
00:25:26,029 --> 00:25:30,483
it seems like they're describing at least the general, what's his name?

432
00:25:30,483 --> 00:25:31,915
General Shaw.

433
00:25:31,915 --> 00:25:33,419
Shaw I looked it up,

434
00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:34,814
He...

435
00:25:37,239 --> 00:25:45,026
They're looking for some kind of like supernatural weapon because he said something
doesn't he like it says that

436
00:25:45,126 --> 00:25:46,857
Well, he says there's these beacons.

437
00:25:46,857 --> 00:25:52,990
Well, he says there's these beacons, like almost like hints, right?

438
00:25:52,990 --> 00:25:54,271
Or clues.

439
00:25:55,512 --> 00:25:56,322
Yeah.

440
00:25:56,845 --> 00:26:04,385
a weapon that generates fear in anyone that comes across it or something like that.

441
00:26:05,225 --> 00:26:11,765
Yeah, that's not exactly his line, but it's a weapon that generates fear.

442
00:26:12,165 --> 00:26:13,861
So that's...

443
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,061
That's pretty interesting.

444
00:26:16,061 --> 00:26:23,418
mean, maybe it's like this energy that's permeating out into Derry when everybody's acting
like a freak show about, you know.

445
00:26:23,418 --> 00:26:24,970
Yes, well, I know that's a thing.

446
00:26:24,970 --> 00:26:27,171
There's clearly a tie.

447
00:26:27,312 --> 00:26:40,324
also the Halloran, his name's Dick Halloran, the one who, he's clearly like, he's a
psychic, a clairvoyant, cause they were like, you you say there's something here, like

448
00:26:40,324 --> 00:26:43,627
that's his talent or whatever, right?

449
00:26:43,627 --> 00:26:45,108
That's what it looked like.

450
00:26:45,790 --> 00:26:46,971
So that was interesting.

451
00:26:46,971 --> 00:26:48,852
um

452
00:26:50,993 --> 00:26:51,292
Yeah.

453
00:26:51,292 --> 00:26:52,393
I had to laugh.

454
00:26:52,393 --> 00:27:06,753
I'm laughing because when his superior officer like the night after they went out drinking
and he's at his post that's up and then his superior officer, whoever that guy is, like

455
00:27:06,753 --> 00:27:16,633
they gave him a mouthful because he was like he was just going on and I was like, you blah
blah blah and if you do this and that I don't think you got this and he was like, was

456
00:27:16,633 --> 00:27:18,765
like, oh you know, he just kept like the

457
00:27:18,765 --> 00:27:22,225
like the line was so long I was like, he's going, he's keep going.

458
00:27:22,225 --> 00:27:24,405
And I was like, man, that's a mouthful.

459
00:27:25,085 --> 00:27:27,645
I thought it was really, really funny.

460
00:27:27,645 --> 00:27:30,445
Cause it's, I just felt kind of like a clunky moment with the writing.

461
00:27:30,445 --> 00:27:32,765
I was like, oh, okay.

462
00:27:34,485 --> 00:27:36,065
But he's great.

463
00:27:36,065 --> 00:27:44,673
They got a lot of good casting with the, I mean, they're not, there's aren't Marines, but
there, you know, a lot of jarheads, you know.

464
00:27:44,673 --> 00:27:46,748
I know, cause some of them was like, wait, is that masters?

465
00:27:46,748 --> 00:27:48,142
Like some kind of look alike.

466
00:27:48,142 --> 00:27:50,408
I was like, I couldn't tell the difference between them.

467
00:27:50,408 --> 00:27:51,893
Um.

468
00:27:51,893 --> 00:27:52,753
Yeah.

469
00:27:54,231 --> 00:27:55,803
Oh, Okay.

470
00:27:55,803 --> 00:27:59,605
So we're moving kind of into like thoughts and questions and stuff.

471
00:27:59,605 --> 00:28:00,165
okay.

472
00:28:00,165 --> 00:28:05,687
The native Americans, we see native Americans at the dig site.

473
00:28:06,948 --> 00:28:07,698
Pissed off.

474
00:28:07,698 --> 00:28:08,679
look clearly.

475
00:28:08,679 --> 00:28:10,559
So that's probably their land or whatever.

476
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:18,122
And then the woman who owns, I mean, I hate to assume or, or stereotype, but the woman who
owns the antiques.

477
00:28:18,122 --> 00:28:25,091
also looks Native American and she was very interested the antique store she was very

478
00:28:26,846 --> 00:28:30,520
into Charlotte and she's like you have a son.

479
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:40,272
don't the way she was saying it I feel like she was like clairvoyant like I don't I don't
know again I'm just thinking that so there's something

480
00:28:41,932 --> 00:28:48,965
I mean, she might not be, but she was like, wait, cause they were gonna, cause there was
another guy in there and he was like, we're doing inventory or something like that.

481
00:28:48,965 --> 00:28:50,154
Or they were going to close or something.

482
00:28:50,154 --> 00:28:51,096
She's like, no, it's okay.

483
00:28:51,096 --> 00:28:53,497
And she wanted to like Charlotte to be in there.

484
00:28:53,497 --> 00:28:56,301
Um, so.

485
00:28:56,301 --> 00:29:06,393
she definitely caught a vibe from her in a way that was like, oh there's a, you know,
who's this person of color in my story?

486
00:29:06,393 --> 00:29:09,081
This usually doesn't happen, it wasn't that, you know.

487
00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:15,203
It wasn't like a racial tension thing, it was kind of like, I've been expecting you kind
of thing, you know.

488
00:29:16,081 --> 00:29:16,973
Yeah.

489
00:29:17,248 --> 00:29:20,530
Even though not just that, cause how did she know?

490
00:29:20,530 --> 00:29:24,398
Cause I think Leroy was the one that went in and got the telescope.

491
00:29:24,398 --> 00:29:28,854
Cause they got, I think they got the telescope from there that they gave to Will, that he
gave to Will.

492
00:29:29,155 --> 00:29:30,616
Yeah.

493
00:29:30,616 --> 00:29:31,588
So that's my thought.

494
00:29:31,588 --> 00:29:32,888
Like obviously there's something.

495
00:29:32,888 --> 00:29:34,769
So there's like, is it alien?

496
00:29:34,769 --> 00:29:36,150
Is it nuclear?

497
00:29:36,150 --> 00:29:38,111
Like nuclear weapon or.

498
00:29:38,209 --> 00:29:42,613
or some kind of weapon, but then there's a Native American.

499
00:29:42,613 --> 00:29:43,810
It's just like, what is this?

500
00:29:43,810 --> 00:29:45,754
What's the, it's all of it.

501
00:29:45,754 --> 00:29:46,755
I don't know.

502
00:29:47,698 --> 00:29:48,939
It's interesting.

503
00:29:49,804 --> 00:29:50,635
Air Force, right?

504
00:29:50,635 --> 00:30:01,541
They just might be, you know, digging up an Indian reservation, you know, without any type
of due process or any right to even be there.

505
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,099
And...

506
00:30:03,099 --> 00:30:04,951
they were talking about the weapon?

507
00:30:04,951 --> 00:30:06,668
What did you say before?

508
00:30:06,668 --> 00:30:09,088
I was like, is the weapon the demon baby?

509
00:30:09,088 --> 00:30:12,597
was like, I don't know.

510
00:30:12,597 --> 00:30:13,638
What's happening?

511
00:30:13,638 --> 00:30:16,520
I mean, I don't think General Shaw thinks that.

512
00:30:17,701 --> 00:30:18,842
They're done.

513
00:30:19,082 --> 00:30:20,203
Yeah, done.

514
00:30:22,587 --> 00:30:30,572
ah And then the car that they pulled out of the ground, was that the freaky family?

515
00:30:30,572 --> 00:30:35,095
But then I was like, but they were freaky and they seemed like they weren't human.

516
00:30:35,355 --> 00:30:39,778
who were the people in the car?

517
00:30:39,918 --> 00:30:41,249
What was your impression?

518
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:43,550
that was, well, wait a second, hold on.

519
00:30:43,550 --> 00:30:47,432
ah Okay, I'm gonna rethink this right now.

520
00:30:47,432 --> 00:30:51,733
That, when I first saw it, was like, yeah, that's the family, that's their car.

521
00:30:51,733 --> 00:30:59,966
But that wasn't, now that I'm thinking, I mean, I guess we'd have to screenshot it or
something, but that was a much older car.

522
00:31:00,007 --> 00:31:00,894
Oh.

523
00:31:01,686 --> 00:31:04,317
That was like a 30s era car.

524
00:31:05,277 --> 00:31:13,200
Whereas this scene that opens, that was like late 50s or 60s car.

525
00:31:14,281 --> 00:31:22,224
But it looked like the same thing might have happened to, same type of event may have
happened in that car that they dug up.

526
00:31:22,303 --> 00:31:23,243
yeah.

527
00:31:24,183 --> 00:31:27,483
Cause then I'm thinking, I'm like, oh, was that Maddie?

528
00:31:27,483 --> 00:31:29,123
was like, was Maddie in there?

529
00:31:29,223 --> 00:31:31,423
But no, you're right.

530
00:31:31,423 --> 00:31:34,003
Yeah, that was a sedan.

531
00:31:34,003 --> 00:31:37,543
Wasn't that more like a sedan in the six with Maddie?

532
00:31:37,543 --> 00:31:41,423
And this one was like a wagon shape.

533
00:31:41,916 --> 00:31:44,137
I think the other one was a wagon.

534
00:31:44,778 --> 00:31:45,569
I know a wagon.

535
00:31:45,569 --> 00:31:46,659
Wanna see it?

536
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,780
Yeah.

537
00:31:49,141 --> 00:31:52,483
Well, I mean, yeah, I do actually.

538
00:31:53,624 --> 00:31:59,008
But I'm pretty sure it was a station wagon.

539
00:31:59,268 --> 00:32:05,152
Because remember the thing that the demon baby thing jumped in the backseat behind the
kids.

540
00:32:05,152 --> 00:32:07,373
He was like, hey guys, what's up?

541
00:32:08,054 --> 00:32:09,405
He put his arm up on the seat.

542
00:32:09,405 --> 00:32:10,536
He's like, hey.

543
00:32:15,614 --> 00:32:17,257
Yeah.

544
00:32:17,257 --> 00:32:17,868
Go to sleep.

545
00:32:17,868 --> 00:32:19,140
Go to sleep.

546
00:32:20,144 --> 00:32:21,584
Get out of here.

547
00:32:21,824 --> 00:32:22,335
Oh.

548
00:32:22,335 --> 00:32:25,249
are demons when they won't go to sleep.

549
00:32:25,739 --> 00:32:33,125
oh I hate to just get punchy with the demon baby, but I'm gonna...

550
00:32:33,767 --> 00:32:34,639
Sorry.

551
00:32:34,639 --> 00:32:36,001
Not into that one.

552
00:32:37,005 --> 00:32:38,668
Okay, what I got.

553
00:32:39,477 --> 00:32:40,213
Yeah.

554
00:32:40,213 --> 00:32:40,563
of it.

555
00:32:40,563 --> 00:32:42,621
Like, I don't know.

556
00:32:42,621 --> 00:32:46,806
I feel like they were playing that for, like, shock value.

557
00:32:46,986 --> 00:32:50,268
And it just sort of came across as a little humorous to me.

558
00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:51,465
But maybe they're doing both.

559
00:32:51,465 --> 00:32:52,479
I don't know.

560
00:32:53,753 --> 00:33:00,589
Like I said in the last episode, I'm on that Facebook fan page and they love that demon
thing.

561
00:33:00,589 --> 00:33:01,840
They love that stuff.

562
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,032
And I think that's what's hard.

563
00:33:04,032 --> 00:33:11,651
Because for me, the gore is the attraction of people who love the gore and I'm not really
into it.

564
00:33:11,651 --> 00:33:14,671
So it's definitely an interesting show.

565
00:33:14,671 --> 00:33:16,553
I like it.

566
00:33:16,553 --> 00:33:21,617
It's not something I normally would watch, I guess.

567
00:33:21,617 --> 00:33:24,915
but I really like that it's not just straight gore horror.

568
00:33:24,915 --> 00:33:28,181
it's, there's these other storylines and stuff.

569
00:33:28,181 --> 00:33:30,263
has a lot more going on than that, than just that.

570
00:33:30,263 --> 00:33:32,141
I mean, I would watch this show.

571
00:33:32,141 --> 00:33:34,525
I I am watching this show.

572
00:33:35,766 --> 00:33:38,857
I am.

573
00:33:38,857 --> 00:33:40,808
So, I'm keep watching it.

574
00:33:40,808 --> 00:33:42,309
uh

575
00:33:43,557 --> 00:33:46,800
Yeah, I'm interested to see where this goes.

576
00:33:47,522 --> 00:33:48,533
It does stress me out.

577
00:33:48,533 --> 00:33:53,280
I get so stressed out with the kid storylines, um but I'm like plowing through.

578
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,131
like, okay, this isn't real.

579
00:33:55,694 --> 00:33:59,474
Yeah, yeah, the stuff with the kids is a little stressful.

580
00:33:59,474 --> 00:34:01,654
mean, it's...

581
00:34:01,654 --> 00:34:06,054
It is cool, though, that, you know, the...

582
00:34:06,054 --> 00:34:08,674
I guess with the exception of...

583
00:34:08,674 --> 00:34:12,574
of the Hanlon family, the...

584
00:34:12,574 --> 00:34:16,074
Parents are kind of on the periphery of everything.

585
00:34:17,354 --> 00:34:18,734
You know?

586
00:34:18,974 --> 00:34:20,318
So that's pretty...

587
00:34:20,318 --> 00:34:21,220
very disconnected.

588
00:34:21,220 --> 00:34:21,641
Yeah.

589
00:34:21,641 --> 00:34:22,869
Very disconnected.

590
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:36,437
Yeah, like we, they're in scenes, we see them, but it's really like the kids and the
military activity, but the...

591
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:38,523
They're the strong, they know what's, they're the strong ones.

592
00:34:38,523 --> 00:34:39,965
They kind of know what's going on.

593
00:34:39,965 --> 00:34:44,600
The kids know what's going on maybe and the military, the cops don't.

594
00:34:45,542 --> 00:34:50,729
Cops have no clue what's happening or don't want to know what's really happening.

595
00:34:50,729 --> 00:34:55,008
or they just don't have a spine and they don't want to deal with it, you know.

596
00:34:56,282 --> 00:35:00,363
also one more thing, and this is so obvious that I was like, duh, yeah.

597
00:35:00,744 --> 00:35:02,524
Again, I got this from the podcast.

598
00:35:02,524 --> 00:35:06,606
It looks like there are scenes that look like a Norman Rockwell painting.

599
00:35:06,606 --> 00:35:09,543
And I really don't know why that didn't come to mind last time.

600
00:35:09,543 --> 00:35:11,407
And I'm like, oh, duh.

601
00:35:11,407 --> 00:35:14,788
So that's exactly like what they're going for.

602
00:35:14,788 --> 00:35:17,149
And that's why it's so.

603
00:35:18,769 --> 00:35:24,973
Such a contradiction, know, it's like, looks so like Norman Rockwell and then it's all
this crazy stuff going on.

604
00:35:25,013 --> 00:35:34,329
Yeah, it's, it's the art direction is, is yeah, it's, they're doing a great job with the
styling of it.

605
00:35:34,329 --> 00:35:44,160
think about if they're going for that, you know that Norman Rockwell, he had all these
paintings and pictures or whatever he did that looked like perfect family, perfect this,

606
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,701
perfect that.

607
00:35:44,701 --> 00:35:48,635
And I heard he was not so much that, like he was.

608
00:35:50,289 --> 00:35:50,982
Did you hear that?

609
00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:52,439
Did you hear that about him?

610
00:35:52,439 --> 00:35:59,229
Wasn't uh that pretty much everybody in post-war America?

611
00:35:59,229 --> 00:36:03,780
uh

612
00:36:03,780 --> 00:36:08,692
dairy, like it looks great, but there's all these secrets.

613
00:36:09,996 --> 00:36:12,397
Yeah, it's the skeletons in the closet thing.

614
00:36:12,397 --> 00:36:14,488
it's a...

615
00:36:15,289 --> 00:36:23,855
You know, I did get a little bit of a little tinge here and there of kind of like a David
Lynch vibe with some of the...

616
00:36:23,855 --> 00:36:28,137
actually some of the sound design slightly, but...

617
00:36:29,789 --> 00:36:43,975
It's because it reminds, I don't know if you've ever seen Blue Velvet, but it reminds me
of Blue Velvet a little bit in that it's a very similar uh backdrop.

618
00:36:44,956 --> 00:36:48,286
It's the wholesome small town America thing.

619
00:36:48,286 --> 00:36:49,230
Mm-hmm.

620
00:36:49,230 --> 00:36:53,594
you know, but there's always a dark underbelly.

621
00:36:54,936 --> 00:36:55,877
Yep.

622
00:36:56,878 --> 00:37:04,326
Just like Saugerties uh

623
00:37:05,709 --> 00:37:06,809
All right.

624
00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:08,630
Anything else?

625
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:09,450
We're done.

626
00:37:09,450 --> 00:37:10,470
Okay.

627
00:37:10,711 --> 00:37:13,522
Well, thanks everyone for watching, for listening.

628
00:37:13,522 --> 00:37:19,075
And you can find HomeBodiesOnly here on a BTRP Media Network.

629
00:37:19,355 --> 00:37:26,438
There's Instagram, homebodiesonly_pod and can find Jeff on Instagram at jeffkadlic

630
00:37:26,554 --> 00:37:27,543
That's me.

631
00:37:27,543 --> 00:37:28,389
Yep.

632
00:37:28,389 --> 00:37:29,326
Check it out.

633
00:37:29,326 --> 00:37:30,266
Yeah.

634
00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:34,535
And yeah, so, uh, looking forward to the next episode.

635
00:37:34,535 --> 00:37:36,518
See what's going on here.

636
00:37:36,544 --> 00:37:37,976
I was a little disappointed.

637
00:37:37,976 --> 00:37:40,879
I was like, maybe we're going to get another one on Sunday, but no.

638
00:37:40,879 --> 00:37:43,211
They're like, whatever.

639
00:37:43,773 --> 00:37:44,644
You never know.

640
00:37:44,644 --> 00:37:46,769
Sometimes double out.

641
00:37:46,769 --> 00:37:47,772
I'm like, yeah.

642
00:37:47,772 --> 00:37:49,266
out.

643
00:37:49,963 --> 00:37:51,816
All right, bye.

644
00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:53,274
Catch you later.